Hypo Genetics Q?

I have a 2012 ghost female. I am wanting to go into a ghost project with her but Im uncertain what male to use. I like the orange ghosts but its to my understanding she would have to be het orange ghost for them to produce orange ghosts. So this is my thinking and I need opinions so please chime in.....I am thinking of using a dom or codom male het to ghost so that the clutch would produce the dom or codom gene babies as well as ghost babies and some normals. Am I correct? If not please correct me. Im still learning :)

yup.

He would either have to be heterogeneous for hypo, specifically the line of Ghost your female is. Or, have the hypo gene as a visible mutation in the morph.

If you were to breed your Orange Ghost female to a lesser het. orange ghost you would potentially get the following.

Lesser Ghosts
Lessers
Lesser het. Ghosts
Ghosts
Normals
Normal het. ghosts

Shes not het to anything. Shes just a plain ole ghost :P

If shes "plain old ghost" then most likely she IS an orange ghost.

This is my Isabella the day that I got her

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...4/Isabella.png

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Originally Posted by KornSnake

This is my Isabella the day that I got her

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...4/Isabella.png

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She looks like an orange ghost (Hypo) to me. If you bred her to a co dom/incomplete dom male het hypo all would be 100% het hypos, you could get normals, hypos, whatever codom you use, and said codom hypos. If you bred her to another visual recessive gene you would get all normals double het for those 2 genes.

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Originally Posted by decensored

yup.

He would either have to be heterogeneous for hypo, specifically the line of Ghost your female is. Or, have the hypo gene as a visible mutation in the morph.

If you were to breed your Orange Ghost female to a lesser het. orange ghost you would potentially get the following.

Lesser Ghosts
Lessers
Lesser het. Ghosts
Ghosts
Normals
Normal het. ghosts

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I agree with this right here and want to reemphasize the importance of making sure that the male you plan on using is from a compatible hypo line. Breeding two incompatible hypo lines WILL NOT produce visual offspring, so double check with the breeder to make sure the animal you are interested in is compatible. There are threads on this site that list most of the hypo lines and whether they're compatible, but here's the link for one of them. It should be a good starting point. Feel free to ask me or anyone else questions since it can be a bit confusing to start with.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...he-ghost-lines

One thing I did want to mention is that people are having issues with the Citrus Ghost line from Gulf Coast being compatible with orange ghost lines, so I would avoid working with that line just to be safe.

Also, that is a fine looking hypo girl! :D

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Originally Posted by KornSnake

This is my Isabella the day that I got her

http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/...4/Isabella.png

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That looks like an orange ghost to me... :confused:

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

That looks like an orange ghost to me... :confused:

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I would guess that she's a ghost from an orange ghost line. :)

Are we allowed to post links to snakes for sale on different sites? If so, Ill show you the male Im interested in.

Regarding links to snakes for sale on different sites, I don't think there's an issue since you aren't doing it for advertisement purposes. In the rules guide, this is the info I found regarding site links.

12. Links or text with the purpose of recruiting members to competing sites are not allowed. Linking to other sources for the purposes of sharing something unavailable at BP.net and/or for the purposes of promoting reasonable and appropriate discussion are allowed. However, links to other forums for the purposes of slamming the site, an individual, or other inflammatory action are not allowed.

13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material without the express, written permission of the owner.

Since you're not doing any of that, I think it should be fine. If I'm wrong, I'd like it if someone corrected me. If you want to wait for official word, feel free to just PM me.

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Are we allowed to post links to snakes for sale on different sites? If so, Ill show you the male Im interested in.

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As far as I know yes, if you are asking for information regarding the snake, and not trying to sell it.

To the admins: If this is not allowed you have my apologies.
This is the male I am thinking of. However maybe it would be better for more clutch variety to find a codom or dom male het to orange ghost, since the general consensus is shes more than likely orange ghost?

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...t=orange+ghost

I personally would get a male condom or dom het ghost (or even a codom/dom visual ghost) that's to your liking. Another thing to keep in mind is that you have a few years until your girl can be bred, so there isn't any rush to pick up a male. Instead, I would look at adding another female to your collection and raising her up with the girl you already have since the girls take longer than the boys to get ready. Once they're about breeding size, add a male to the collection.

:D Shes only 1 of 6 BPs I have. Shes just the only one that doesnt have a project lined up with yet. I know I have time but I like to look at my options ahead of time and that way I can start looking and take my time to find exactly what I want.

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:D Shes only 1 of 6 BPs I have. Shes just the only one that doesnt have a project lined up with yet. I know I have time but I like to look at my options ahead of time and that way I can start looking and take my time to find exactly what I want.

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Haha whoops, I just looked in your gallery at them. Bea, your mojo, and your black pastel are all very nice! :gj:

Hmm, there's definitely a ton of cool ghost stuff out there. I'll be biased and vote for an enchi ghost or enchi het ghost. :D

Im kinda partial to my collection as well. I think all my babies are pretty. I need to post a pic of my pastel male and Im getting a 100% het pied female from my friend. As soon as I get of pic of her, she will be added as well. Ill look for her a bf next year ;)

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Originally Posted by KornSnake

Im kinda partial to my collection as well. I think all my babies are pretty. I need to post a pic of my pastel male and Im getting a 100% het pied female from my friend. As soon as I get of pic of her, she will be added as well. Ill look for her a bf next year ;)

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They're definitely lookers! I look forward to seeing the pics of your pastel and het ! :D

Keep me posted on what you pick up for your ghost girl. :)

Your money would be best spent getting a female Hypo, female Co-dom Hypo, or a female Co-dom het Hypo this year if you are set on buying another animal for a Hypo project this year. I would certainly wait a year before buying a male Co-dom Hypo for two reasons. First, the price of males will not go up over the next year (most likely the prices will go down a little). Second, you will be feeding the male for an extra year before your girl is ready for him. If you wait that year, you could put the money you would've spent on food for that year towards a better male. Just my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by slashlax99

Your money would be best spent getting a female Hypo, female Co-dom Hypo, or a female Co-dom het Hypo this year if you are set on buying another animal for a Hypo project this year. I would certainly wait a year before buying a male Co-dom Hypo for two reasons. First, the price of males will not go up over the next year (most likely the prices will go down a little). Second, you will be feeding the male for an extra year before your girl is ready for him. If you wait that year, you could put the money you would've spent on food for that year towards a better male. Just my thoughts.

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I already have a female hypo. Shes 2012. Im thinking ahead in the future. I dont mind feeding an animal that Im going to keep. They are more my pets than breeders. I just love my babies

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Originally Posted by KornSnake

I already have a female hypo. Shes 2012. Im thinking ahead in the future. I dont mind feeding an animal that Im going to keep. They are more my pets than breeders. I just love my babies

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I understand that you already have a 2012 female Hypo, I was just suggesting getting a second female (would allow your Hypo project to go in more directions) if you were going to buy another animal this year. I'm sure you would be happy feeding a male for an extra year, but I didn't know if saving around $75 dollars in food for a year would help you get a male that you might be more excited about, maybe one with more genes than if you were to buy a male now.

What about a Mimosa male? Opinions?

YES! Mimosas are hot!

I do love the Mimosas but I not sure hot how the Champagne gene is right now....or will be in 2 years????

Almost makes me wanna get one just to breed to my black pastel girl :bow:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...tel-champagne/