Python Hybrids

lets see what the people think of hybrids..

I get the purist point of view but I love to see what can be produced. Most bp morphs would never have happened without human intervention. I love to see what's possible. You'll hear a lot of people complain about "mutts" but i'll bet they themselves are in fact a mutt!

To put two snakes together to breed is not only an amazing privilege but a responsibility as well. If you are going to inter breed species you need to document and make sure to be forthcoming to any and all future owners.

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Originally Posted by cecilbturtle

I get the purist point of view but I love to see what can be produced. Most bp morphs would never have happened without human intervention. I love to see what's possible. You'll hear a lot of people complain about "mutts" but i'll bet they themselves are in fact a mutt!

To put two snakes together to breed is not only an amazing privilege but a responsibility as well. If you are going to inter breed species you need to document and make sure to be forthcoming to any and all future owners.

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You said it! I know people are going to have their opinions, and they are entittled to them. I just wanna see what people really think. Lol

I'll start. I saw Brian's! BHB , super ball(I think).. I think it was an awesome looking snake!

I love all hybrids. I hope to produce a wall sometime in the future. I just think it looks so cool!

curently working on jagpondros, walls, and dwarf bateaters. I'm all for it if the animals will breed naturally. But documentation is everything, people need to know what they are seeing.

I think it's a fine idea to see what you can produce. Look at the "Liger and Tion" (yes they're 2different animals) I would love to have something like a T-neg brongersmai super ball python. Or the BurmBall which I've heardhas been done, but I haven't seen it yet.

I think I've seen the burm ball before. That's got to be hard to do though. You need a BIG female I would imagine so the male burm doesn't mistake her for a meal.

Here's a link to some ball python hybrids. Including the burmball.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/hybrids/

My favorite hybrids (in all of herpetoculture) are usually between distantly related species, or at least extremely different in appearances.

Woma hybrids are incredible.
GTP hybrids, particularly 75% carpondros have a true 'wow' factor.
Heck, even the burmball gets a HUUGE thumbs up from me, despite the parent species being not too different.. it's just the offspring that has a completely unique look to it.

Some of the hybrids that come out looking pretty blah for the work that goes into such a project:
Ball x angolan
Ball x STP species
STP x other STP
Even most carpet python subspecies crosses tend to be inferior to the looks of pure parents, with some specific exceptions that can turn out to look incredible.
Again, a subspecies cross that doesn't work out so well for me are rhino x gaboon crosses.

i was gonna say i don't like hybrids but my 75% diamond jungle carpets ive been breeding is a hybrid :rolleyes:

but i don't like mutts! it could get nasty if irresponsible people get their grubby paws on them.

Most carpets in the US are mutts unless you can get a paper trail back far enough.
I'm all for a hybrid but it must be sold as such. I was going to try a carpet x ball but one of my girls died of cancer a few weeks ago :(

I dont see a problem with it as long as its done by someone who knows what theyre doing and does it responsibly. I wouldnt be looking to purchase bateaters from joe schmo down the block.

For me it depends on the species/subspecies. Crossing burms to balls or corns to grey rats doesn't bother me. But the more rare species I think should be kept pure. I don't think Angolans should be bred to balls just because they look so similar someone could try to pass it off as pure. I think that localities should be kept pure especially in chondros and boas. The main reason I believe in keeping these animals pure is because if we don't then they will no longer exist. It's hard to find pure locality animals already in certain cases. And there are several species of snakes that are hard to find that were much more common 20 years ago. If you are wanting to do hybrids then by all means do so. But remember that some will never accept them.

I love hybrids here is a pic of one of the jagpondros we made this year http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...30194198_n.jpg

I'm a purist, and don't agree with it...

I am somewhat split on this issue. i love to see whats new and what can be done but some people will sell them mislabeled. its inevitable. i guess we will see what happens because no matter what i say or anyone else if it can be done someone somewhere will do it lol.