Please Help

I got the following Ball a few days ago. He is awesome. According to the owners they paid $250. for him I know he is not a regular BP if any of you can help because they did not know what kind of Ball he was I would appreciate it. Thanks

i dont know how to do a direct photo so here is the link.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...61612142_o.jpg

Um, maybe a yellow belly? I don't know, he *looks* like a normal, or nothing that screams another morph. But I'm fairly new at ID'ing the more subtle morphs.

yes i was thinking he looks like a regular with them paying that type of money, however for $50 we got a great deal. tank and everything.

Sorry, you got a normal/regular ball python. nothin wrong with that i have 6 normals lol.

to me it looks like you have a very low quality pastel, better pictures would help.

Absolutely no pastel there. Just a good-sized normal.

im no expert, but it looks like a normal to me.

Might be a sub-saharen, how heavy he? typically saharens go in this range but usually that is for females they have large clutches typically.

I have not weighed him at all yet. Not sorry at all he is an awesome Snake. Working on getting him used of being handled the other owner would not handle him after he bit them during a feeding so we will get him used of contact and his body back to a normal hydration amazing how many owners dont care about hydration for there snake. He is very Dry.

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Originally Posted by decensored

to me it looks like you have a very low quality pastel, better pictures would help.

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That was what I was thinking, a pastel in shed maybe.

Naw, no pastel there. Just a nice big normal somebody paid too much for once upon a time.

Gale

ya he is for sure a regular looking at him closer. He shed not to long ago I cleaned all the skin out of the cage when I got him. I changed out what was Sand and hay and put in some Aspen and then made him a Hiding spot out of a rubbermade bin and cutting an access point. He loves it in there. Getting humidity up what are some tips? the cage is full screen on top its a 30 gal. I have now covered half the screen with aluminum foil. Then I have a small under tank heater its a pad thats like 6X4 and then a red heat light above on screen. Any additional tips would be great. We had the previous owners feed him a day before we got him because we did not want a huger strike right off. They had him eating in a seperate box that they gave us I to will be doing that because he is used of it. They said he eats thawed frozen. My main concerns is his super dry skin. He is super dry.

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Originally Posted by sin2001

ya he is for sure a regular looking at him closer. He shed not to long ago I cleaned all the skin out of the cage when I got him. I changed out what was Sand and hay and put in some Aspen and then made him a Hiding spot out of a rubbermade bin and cutting an access point. He loves it in there. Getting humidity up what are some tips? the cage is full screen on top its a 30 gal. I have now covered half the screen with aluminum foil. Then I have a small under tank heater its a pad thats like 6X4 and then a red heat light above on screen. Any additional tips would be great. We had the previous owners feed him a day before we got him because we did not want a huger strike right off. They had him eating in a seperate box that they gave us I to will be doing that because he is used of it. They said he eats thawed frozen. My main concerns is his super dry skin. He is super dry.

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Few questions:
Is your UTH controlled by a thermostat?
What are you using to determine temperature (digital or analog thermometers)

Using a tank means humidity is going to be a pain. Try a different substrate (like cypress mulch) that will hold in moisture.

That heat lamp is also going to destroy your humidity.

What are your room temperatures like? It might be easier to switch to a Rubbermaid tub setup. No matter what I did, I could never keep the humidity up to levels that they need.

If you're set on the tank setup:

-Use a large water bowl and have it ontop of your UTH.
-get some plexiglass to place under the lid and drill some holes in it for ventilation
-wet a towel and cover 3/4th of the cage
-switch to a wetter substrate
-mist often

If he seems dry, he could be dehydrated. Or it could be stuck shed. You said you picked up shed pieces, so if that's true it's possible there's still some shed left on him.

I'd suggest letting him soak in the bathtub for a few minutes with a wash cloth to crawl in. It should help remove the stuck shed.

Also, feed him in his enclosure. Removing him to feed is stressful, and you're more likely to get bit if you try moving him while he's in "feed" mode.

I am using analog therm. the UTH is just a plug in in a few days im going to get a better one. I do mist in there alot and during the day when he is in asleep I put a moist towel over the top of the cage I keep that room around 70 degrees. His cage is staying right around 85 under lamp and then 75 on cold side of cage. I will try the plex glass thats a great idea. Tomorrow I will let him soak its not shed at all its just him being super dry. Im also going to get something to let me know humidity levels in there. For now I will keep misting was thinking is it wise in the hide to mist it good under there? its where the UTH is.

You can get sphagnum miss and put it in the hides to help with the humidity. I would bump up the cold side to at least 78. Putting a wet towel on the top of the tank does wonders. My humidity is always at 51% and I mist like once every other day to bump it up to 55% since I have a heat lamp too

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Originally Posted by sin2001

I am using analog therm. the UTH is just a plug in in a few days im going to get a better one. I do mist in there alot and during the day when he is in asleep I put a moist towel over the top of the cage I keep that room around 70 degrees. His cage is staying right around 85 under lamp and then 75 on cold side of cage. I will try the plex glass thats a great idea. Tomorrow I will let him soak its not shed at all its just him being super dry. Im also going to get something to let me know humidity levels in there. For now I will keep misting was thinking is it wise in the hide to mist it good under there? its where the UTH is.

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Analog thermometers/hygrometers arent always reliable. I'd switch to digital, or buy a heat gun to monitor temps.

If your UTH is plugged directly into the wall, that means you have no thermostat. Thermostats are VERY important when using heating devices. Your UTH can easily reach temperatures that can/will BURN your snake.

I'd suggest you pick up a hydrofarm (cheaper) or a herpstat(best) to regulate your UTH.

Hydrofarm:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NZZG3S
Herpstat:
http://www.spyderrobotics.com

Also, I'd try to bump up your cool side. 80 is a better temperature to aim for. Anything lower then 75 can be bad for the snake and can cause RIs.