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  • 11-04-2012, 01:44 PM
    Bill T
    Is this mouth rot? Or something else?
    I opened my big girl's cage to find this today. I already have an appointment set up for tomorrow first thing at 8a. How bad is this and how worried should i be. In 4 or 5 years of having ball pythons ive never had this happen. Also should quarantine be implemented?


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  • 11-04-2012, 02:30 PM
    therunaway
    It looks like a cyst or an abscess. I would quarantine until the vet appointment.

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  • 11-04-2012, 02:32 PM
    Flikky
    Re: Is this mouth rot? Or something else?
    That poor girl :tears: That looks horribly uncomfortable at the least. Good on you for making an appt. so quickly :gj: I for one am interested in updates on her. Never seen anything like that; Would be curious what it was and on how she gets better. :(
  • 11-04-2012, 02:41 PM
    kitedemon
    It looks like a vet appointment. Ouch i'd guess abscess or some sort of infection it looks unpleasant at best good luck at the vets!
  • 11-04-2012, 04:38 PM
    Bill T
    Ill keep everyone updated. Ya its leaking pus and developed very quickly. last night it was half this size and the day before barely noticeable. i have her quarantined and i had my bumblebee male with her last week so he is quarantined as well but he shows no symptoms. ill post tommorow when i know more.
  • 11-04-2012, 05:45 PM
    baskingbaby
    Ouchie! Poor girl. Glad you're getting her to the vet. Let us know how she is! :(
  • 11-04-2012, 07:54 PM
    LLLReptile
    Please share an update when you have one! I have seen something similar but the snake in that situation wasn't leaking pus or anything - just random swelling. The folks that had that snake took it to the vet and theirs gave them general antibiotics, which eventually made the swelling go down. Never did find out what caused it in their case.

    Curious what happens here. Good luck!!!

    -Jen
  • 11-04-2012, 10:46 PM
    Foxtuning65
    Poor girl. I had a male burm who's face swelled up. He shed one day and his jaw, throat and everything were just huge. So i took him out of his cage and put him in the bath tub until i could get a QT tub done. came back in and the swelling went down almost all the way.Took him to the vet and she said there were no infections or anything. She said that she has seen it before, just random swelling and as soon as the snake gets in a warm bath or starts moving it goes away. So weird. Hope to hear good new from the vet
  • 11-05-2012, 01:16 AM
    carlson
    Will wtf! I haven't seen you in ages bro it's carlson from high school. I noticed these pics face book then took a better look at your picture. How have you been are you still on the range or in duluth?
  • 11-05-2012, 11:49 AM
    Bill T
    Re: Is this mouth rot? Or something else?
    Lol what up nick ya im back on the range. got back from iraq 2 years ago and got a place and ya got back into snakes lol. The vet pushed our visit back to 1130 today so the rest of the members here will have an update hopefully around 1 or so.
  • 11-05-2012, 02:06 PM
    carlson
    I'm glad you got done with all your army stuffy safely and I'm gonna be up on the range last weekend of deer season ill try and get over to your place if your free so we can catch up and I can see your snakes haha
  • 11-05-2012, 02:55 PM
    Bill T
    Well i just got back from the vet. Bertha will live but she has a nasty infection. The Doc gave me 10 syringes of baytril to be administered in the muscle tissue every 2 days. I just hope she bounces back from this quick. She lost a good chunk of weight that i didn't notice before. Thank u all for the positive thoughts. And sounds good nick. just send me a text i got the reptile/rodent/bug room almost done. Ull have to come see it and meet the reptilian side of my family. And no not my mother in law but close lol.
  • 11-05-2012, 03:07 PM
    carlson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill T View Post
    Well i just got back from the vet. Bertha will live but she has a nasty infection. The Doc gave me 10 syringes of baytril to be administered in the muscle tissue every 2 days. I just hope she bounces back from this quick. She lost a good chunk of weight that i didn't notice before. Thank u all for the positive thoughts. And sounds good nick. just send me a text i got the reptile/rodent/bug room almost done. Ull have to come see it and meet the reptilian side of my family. And no not my mother in law but close lol.

    I'm glad she's gonna make it for you, and for sure I'd love to see your reptilian family members Haha, have you produced any babies this year? Ha I still laugh at finding you on here some reason I didn't know you kept so many d snakes I knew there was a reason we get along so well :) haha so ya expect me to visit when I'm up there and I expect the full tour of snakes and feeders and it seems like I need to meet your better half not sure if I've meet her before.
  • 11-05-2012, 03:16 PM
    Freakie_frog
    These are very resilient animals. I had a baby get a scratch in it's mouth for a rat toenail. Poor things head swole up huge, I was able to express most of the abscess through the wound site and treat with Baytril, made a full recovery and never missed a beat. I've seen even worse wound's than that and had them live surprisingly so.. Just remember to bump the temps up a little and keep the tubs super clean and super clean water at all times..
  • 11-05-2012, 03:21 PM
    Bill T
    The temps are bumped and she is in a clean new tub. The swelling went down a little since last night just from a cue tip with hydrogen peroxide on it. she is acting a little lethargic but that disappeared when she got stuck lol. Thanks for the tips freakie frog. The vet said expect the swelling to drastically disappear by thursday or friday so im hopin for the best.
  • 11-05-2012, 04:40 PM
    carlson
    Fingers crossed for you and your girl bud
  • 11-05-2012, 05:29 PM
    kitedemon
    Bill T that is good news! I hope she recovers quickly. Did the vet have any opinion of why? I am curious.
  • 11-05-2012, 05:43 PM
    Bill T
    Kitedemon. The vet said it can be as simple as a small scratch when eating or a tooth may have loosened up. Almost anything. His snake had it once his assistants bp got it etc. Ive never seen it swell that quick myself but he is the expert lol. He was great. No hesitation just stuck his hand in the tub and grabbed her lol. the price tag was decent too. it cost me $48.04 for the visit and 20 days of injections for her. A small price for my best breeder female i think. If there is anyone in the northern MN area i would highly recommend him. Hopefully i wont have to visit him for awhile but its nice to know that we have a great snake doc in the area who loves herps.
  • 11-05-2012, 08:25 PM
    kitedemon
    I have had a snake drop a tooth at the vets once but never had an infection like yours developed. I have done a lot of rescues over the years and seen all kinds of issues but this isn't something I have encountered yet. It is great when you find a good vet I too am fortunate to have a great vet near me whom is also reasonably priced. My bearded dragon has had a number of visits and his antibiotics and visit costs often run about the same 50$. keep us posted as she improves! :)
  • 11-05-2012, 08:26 PM
    luluizzi
    Yay!! Glad to hear the promising news. Awesome vet you have there. Wishing Bertha a speedy recovery.
  • 11-05-2012, 08:51 PM
    Bill T
    Will do. Luluizzi. Ive never had to bring a bp in to the vets so i was bracing myself for a hundo plus bill lol. Im off to work soon so im off for the night. Ill post some pics in a few days for a comparrison. Thanks again everyone for the good thoughts and wishes.
  • 11-09-2012, 10:50 AM
    Bill T
    Just thought id post an update. Bertha is doin great. She is responding well to the baytril antibiotics and the swelling has decreased exponentially. She is not a fan of the injections but its better than the alternative. Thanks again to everyone for the good thoughts and wishes.
  • 11-09-2012, 02:10 PM
    carlson
    Good I'm happy to hear you big girls getting better for you. Which vet did you bring her to?
  • 11-09-2012, 11:13 PM
    Bill T
    Re: Is this mouth rot? Or something else?
    I brought her to the one just outside of hibbing. i was really impressed. no hesitation whatsoever. just stuck his hand in the tub lol. dunno if im even that fearless.
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