Saving for a vision

Okay, I've decided to save up for a vision cage - obviously I don't want to have to buy two so what is the biggest size I would need for a BP? Also I am planning on sometime in the future getting a Brazilian Rainbow Boa how big of a vision cage would that need?

An adult male ball python should have 5-6 sq ft of floor space and a female should have 6-7 sq ft because males will often cap out at 4' to 4.5' and females will typically reach 4.5' to 5' but can reach 6' in length. Basically, you want to provide a ball python with 1-2 sq ft more in floorspace than it has in length.

so would this be good for a BP?
Model 332?
and this good for a BCI Model 422?
http://www.kingsnake.com/visionherp/

by the way, big apple herp has a much better deal on these than this site does, but this site has pics. BP model 332 is under meduim and BCI 422 under large

I think those would both be fine, but somebody else can give you a better answer for the BRB.

I would email or call them regarding the BRB Jonah.

cool thanks

If you want to get more bang for your buck (in other words, a better quality enclosure, IMO) go with an Animal Plastics cage instead of Vision.

http://http://animalshare.wantapet.c...ics/index.html

I've used both Vision & AP, and would choose AP in a heartbeat. Their customer service is second to none, they design their cages to be assembled by the customer (which is VERY easy to do!!!!), hence saving you a ton of money on shipping, and I also feel that theirs is a superior product. Vision cages are 1/4" thick at best - AP cages are 1/2" plastic that retains heat & humidity extremely well. You also have the opportunity to add custom options to any AP cage you order. I have been NOTHING but pleased with this company & wouldn't hesitate to recommend their caging to anyone who doesn't want to have to upgrade later on.

K

Personally Johan if I were to get a Vision Cage, I would go with model 622 :)(for a BP that is)

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Originally Posted by iceman25

Personally Johan if I were to get a Vision Cage, I would go with model 622 :)(for a BP that is)

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Putting a ball python in a 6' enclosure is not only overkill, it is likely to put undue stress on the snake. Ball pythons thrive in close, secure quarters that don't constantly make the snake feel as though it could possibly be attacked from any angle.

Just food for thought.

K

Yeah, a 6 foot cage is definitely overkill for a BP, lol. I have used BARRS cages before and they are pretty good and relatively inexpensive.......I've also used Precision cages which aren't as good but they're decent.

Is a six foot long cage too big even for an adult Ball? I find that hard to believe. If you provide plenty of hides, why does size matter? In the wild they have their hides in an open world. Just my two cents :wink:

I've got a precision, they're probly the cheapest out there, thats a plus.

My only complaints are that they're a little on the thin side.

But they come with a free heating lamp. The guy does every one custom. So you're not getting a production line cage. Like for me, I went for only one vent as opposed to three. It also has a whole host of other options.

When I bought my 36" length x 20" depth x 13-1/4" height it was only 125$. Seems he upped the price to 150$. At that price you might as well just get a boaphile. They're better.

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Is a six foot long cage too big even for an adult Ball? I find that hard to believe. If you provide plenty of hides, why does size matter? In the wild they have their hides in an open world. Just my two cents :wink:

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Actually in the wild they spend little time out in the open, especially during the day. They spend their daytime hours under the ground, usually in some other animal's burrow.....then come out to hunt for food at night. Its very important for the snake to feel secure in order for it to thrive.

What about providing him/her with plenty of hides in a larger tank? Will that not make them secure? Plus it will give them some room to cruise around at night. I'm not arguing the fact that they need to feel secure, just the fact that provinding them plenty of good hides in a bigger enclosure will make them feel just that. Let the rebuttals flow :wink:

I'm with Raj on this one. Of course, I'm not speaking from expert knowledge, but just what seems logical to me. Just because a bp can stay healthy (and for all appearances, "happy") in a smaller enclosure, doesn't mean they wouldn't be just as fine in a larger one...excellent husbandry and tender-loving-care all being equal. Offer the snake a variety of hides to choose from, some foliage (fake) for it to "sneak around' in, maybe a branch or two for it to climb and explore, maybe even a little "pond" for it to soak in if it's so inclined....seems like a very happy enclosure to me.

Seems to me like this is just another one of those instances where there's more than one way to skin a cat. :wink:

In this forum we skin Rats Judy :lol:

:roll: That's what I get for backing you up? :wink: :lol:

LOL Judy. https://ball-pythons.net/modules/cop...353/icon23.gif

I totally agree that there is nothing wrong with providing a larger-than-necessary cage for a BP as long as its done properly. I (and many others who keep numerous snakes) just don't have the space to give a Ball Python a 6 foot cage, lol. A big cage with lots of stuff in it for a BP is kinda pointless IMO as they aren't display animals and its not a necessity in my eyes. But theres certainly nothing wrong with doing so. :)

Agreed!

Is there any way someone could add this in the links section under caging? For animal plastics?
http://animalshare.wantapet.com/anim...ics/index.html
I think this is the route I will go

Good choice Jonah.

thanks for all the input!

Thats why we here bud!