Tubbing BP make them more aggressive?

This is what was told to me by someone on FB that breed BPs

tubbing snakes can make them a little more aggressive so if you want a pet to hold stick with a tank and you shouldn't have any problems.


Is this true?

Not in the least bit. Whoever told you that is very misinformed.

EDIT: also thank you for not using capitals randomnly! Im proud of you lol.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Not in the least bit. Whoever told you that is very misinformed.

EDIT: also thank you for not using capitals randomnly! Im proud of you lol.

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yeah..because i was confused when he told me this lol

Yea thats completely false. so this breeder breeds bps an keeps them in what? aquariums?

None of my bps are aggressive and i can hold all of them. Theyre all in tubs in a rack.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yea thats completely false. so this breeder breeds bps an keeps them in what? aquariums?

None of my bps are aggressive and i can hold all of them. Theyre all in tubs in a rack.

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cool! Thanks man

I would think it really had more to do with the individual snakes personality. Being in a tub doesn't make them aggressive.

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All of mine are in tubs not a aggressive one in the little bunch.

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edit: Also thank you for not using capitals randomnly! Im proud of you lol.

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x2! :)

I have 8. Started out with tanks and the humidity was horrible. Moved to tubs, and stayed that way for the past 5 or so years. Not once have I experienced tub aggression! He was misinformed.

Aggressive? I don't think there is a such thing when it comes to BPs. That is not an appropriate word at all. Of course I have one older female who does not really like to be handled but she's not aggressive. She's nervous. They can be fearful. Many babies can strike out of fear until they know that hand coming toward them is not going to eat or kill them.. They can strike when in feeding mode because they are hungry and may smell rodent or be honing in on the heat signature coming from the hand coming toward them. Or they can be flighty and hissy like my girl because she doesn't get handled much and is simply voicing her opinion on it, but aggression should never be a BP trait.

What you house them in shouldn't play any role in their demeanor though. It has everything to do with proper heat, humidity, ability to hide, proper food, and handling if you want it to BE a calm pet. If it were possible to provide these things in a cardboard box (that's a joke of course) then your snake would still have the same temperament as it would if it were kept in a tub or a glass aquarium as long as the same requirements were met.

My pastel male is "jumpy", but I don't think he was handled much. As far as a tub doing anything negative to their behavior, I have to highly disagree. The only thing I could pose to seemingly come near it would be someone putting a bp in a tub and not taking it out very often. That would make a snake jumpy, and maybe a little nippy, but it's not going to come after you like a blood thirsty animal. Bps, and snakes in general, are just not like that.

Never heard of it and never have experienced that. In fact I think it has the opposite effect on them, I feel that they are more comfortable in a tub. A tub is usually a lot smaller and opaque, everything a BP likes. Use tubs if you can and glass as a last resort.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

I have one older female who does not really like to be handled .

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It is early and I am tired but I had to laugh at this because what I read and saw were two TOTALLY differnt things:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
My brain processed this as

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Originally Posted by FES

I being one older female who doesnt really like to be handled

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On my end, I have not noticed any changes at all. My 3 psychos are still the same;)

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

It is early and I am tired but I had to laugh at this because what I read and saw were two TOTALLY differnt things:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
My brain processed this as


On my end, I have not noticed any changes at all. My 3 psychos are still the same;)

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And I thank you for that early morning laugh :D I'm not THAT old mind you... Lol

Aggressive no not at all. I do rotate mine every 18 months of so the ones in enclosures and the ones in tubs. What I notice is a change in feeding. I have fewer refusals in the enclosures than tubs. It is reasonably consistent during the tub time all of mine have more refusals than the previous 18 months not in tubs. I don't have enough information to say why, but there is a much higher refusal rate. At first I had thought particular animals did better in enclosures and others in the rack but the last rotation the worst feeder I have broke a long fast 2 weeks after being moved she has had more meals after the move than in the whole previous 18 month time in the tub. I tune the enclosures to the animal (adjust temps and ambient based on the individual snake) the rack is generic 80/90/78 these are basically even top to bottom. The only conclusion I can draw is my 11 feed better in enclosures.

Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

And I thank you for that early morning laugh :D I'm not THAT old mind you... Lol

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That I do know (seen your pics posted :heartbrea ;)), thats what made me laugh even more.

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

Aggressive no not at all. I do rotate mine every 18 months of so the ones in enclosures and the ones in tubs. What I notice is a change in feeding. I have fewer refusals in the enclosures than tubs. It is reasonably consistent during the tub time all of mine have more refusals than the previous 18 months not in tubs. I don't have enough information to say why, but there is a much higher refusal rate. At first I had thought particular animals did better in enclosures and others in the rack but the last rotation the worst feeder I have broke a long fast 2 weeks after being moved she has had more meals after the move than in the whole previous 18 month time in the tub. I tune the enclosures to the animal (adjust temps and ambient based on the individual snake) the rack is generic 80/90/78 these are basically even top to bottom. The only conclusion I can draw is my 11 feed better in enclosures.

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That's quite interesting. Maybe they feel more secure in an enclosure? How are your tubs set up (hides, water bowl, substrate)?

I set the tubs up with the same hides and everything uses the same substrate. The water bowls are also all the same just a plain glass bowl. The temps are basically the same as well the tubs are all 80/90 ambient around 78 usually warmer but sometimes as cool as 77. The enclosures are individually adjusted based on the animals preference all have 90º hot spots the cool surface varies between 78-82 depending on the animals individual behaviour. The ambient temps ramp from 78-84(85) during a 24 hour period. About one degree every two hours or so. The top and bottom hold and don't dip. The enclosures are all lit as well with full spectrum flourscent tubes (12/12). What the differences are I can't say but there IS a distinct behavioural change they become more shy and refusals are more likely in the rack than the enclosures. One of my older adults (10 years) looking at my records fed 28 times in 18 months in the tub and 49 times in his enclosure over a second 18 month period. I often wonder if it isn't related to light, I have a friend whom has been breeding for years and years he always says to take non feeding snakes after breeding season is over out in the sun for an hour. I found this worked for me in the past (never needed to in enclosures) I wonder if there isn't something to light exposure, there are many accounts of royals being seen warming in the evening before full sun set.

I think as long as you routinely interact with the snake at times other than feeding time, you'll have a non-biter.