Making Money Without Ball Pythons

So I'm wondering is there anyone on this forum who breeds, sells, or focuses on things other than ball pythons, or snakes in general? I recently thought about dropping out of ball pythons and other snakes and focusing on geckos. Mostly because the upkeep cost is a lot less than my snakes. But it seems like all the money is in ball python morphs. So who makes a living or a good chunk of money breeding other things?:rage:

I was thinking the same think last night. I'm interested to hear what everyone says!

I plan to breed balls for a little untill I have my own place with more room, then I plan on working with carpets and GTP. I will still breed ball pythons I just like GTP and carpets a lot also and do not have the room for the cages to house carpets and GTP right now.

Go to any of the gecko, chameleon, bearded dragon, and/or any other herp forum and you'll find others who work with species other than snakes and BPs. Dart frogs, skinks, uromastyx, the list goes on and on. I know of a couple of friends of mine (not breeders, just hobbyists) who don't work with snakes because they lack "personality." It's their cup of tea, I love my snakes.

BPs do indeed make a big market in and of themselves, but trust me, they're hardly all there is

Most people don't make a living or a big chunk of money breeding snakes, lizards, frogs or what have you. The best thing you can do is find what makes you the happiest and breed that. Then the money coming in will be bonus.

I also breed dart frogs. Honestly, I have made more money selling feeder insects and plants for vivariums than darts. I also currently make more money selling the rats than balls.

Simple answer yes you can with no problem at all. Haven't bred bp's coming up on 3 years and make more $$ now then ever before. Feeders, and supplies make more $$ for us then bp's ever did.

We sell a variety of animals and are only just now branching off into BPs. Our BP females won't be ready for another 1.5 years at least. You definitely can make money without having snakes but just as with BPs the average breeder is going to make minimal profit.

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Most people don't make a living or a big chunk of money breeding snakes, lizards, frogs or what have you. The best thing you can do is find what makes you the happiest and breed that. Then the money coming in will be bonus.

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Exactly. I plan to breed my boas. And I want to work with Angolans and eventually with Eastern Indigos as well. But I really don't plan to work with balls at all. There are a couple of morphs that I like, but even the high end morphs are becoming so common. At shows, all you see are balls and more balls. For this reason alone, I want to work with something different. Plus I have a hard time dealing with picky eaters, lol.... :D

But, seriously, if you don't work with what you love, you'll burn out. Don't breed balls because you think that's where the money is. It's not worth doing it at all if you don't work with what you love. :gj:

I love balls, but my true love are retics (which unfortunately I can't keep because I live in New York) and bloods/short tails. I find a borneo so much more gorgeous than most ball morphs. I will have plenty of balls when I can have snakes again, but I just love bloods and short tails with how girthy they get and ill tempered at times :)

We breed Quarter Horses! :gj:

Just over this weekend we went to 2 different shows. Made more selling our baby Nic boas and baby blood pythons than we did selling ball pythons. As a smaller scale breeder of ball pythons you have a lot of competition at shows. At least 8 out of every 10 tables starts the day off with a ball python on it. At most local shows people don't walk in the door with $500.00+ in their pocket and 95% of the people that come through the doors just can't, won't, or shouldn't afford animals that are $250+. They tend to look and possibly get their kid an inexpensive normal ball python if they even get a ball python. In the mean time your trying to capture that 5% of business from all the other breeders when in most cases multiple breeders will have the same single gene stuff on their table as you have on yours. So now your dependent on having a multi gene animal that is nobody else has that someone coming through the door is going to want, having better enough quality that it is easily noticable, or having cheaper prices.

Boas being the second biggest item at shows only appear on about 50% of tables, but with then you can compete based on locality and temperment which are qualities you just don't have competition on in ball pythons.

Then you get into blood pythons, Short tail pythons, and the rest and generally only 10% to 20% of tables will have any of these. Not so much competition, but a smaller clientel base for now.

I made more with people wanting rodents( feeder and such than I did with my actual snakes. this season,) I end up trading and adding money to trade to get a couple mutli gene snakes ( I still cout a super form of a snake as a single gene ) . that being said i been I am trying to sell a couple larger breeding snakes (ball pythons)off to help offset the cost of the wedding. ( fiance and I are trying not to rely on family to help cover the cost ) WE only letting her mom help ( a little ) cause she feels she being left out lol)

I luv my fiancee but man why does everything wedding wise seem to double the price ? gown and altering yeah ok. but simple things like cakes and or flowers it like want a dozen roses it 30 bucks ( same roses for a wedding seems like they triple the cost )

I plan to start with bps, but I've already discussed with the hubby and started learning about other species I would love to work with aswell. Hoggies will be my next species I think, when we get more room I would love to get a BTS or two. I've been looking for a smaller boa species to work with aswell.

I may not ever have the biggest table at a show, but I hope to compensate by having the highest quality animals I can find. If that doesn't make a little profit, so be it. I get my giggles caring for reptiles, if they support themselves, awesome. Make me a small profit? Woot, bonus! But I'm not banking on it.

If you decide to stay with snakes other than BPs, I would go with cornsnakes and/or hognose snakes. Corns are especially easy to breed and raise. As far as other types of reptiles, leopard geckos are pretty cool. Good luck!

Thanks for everyone who chipped in! I was really just curious I breed a few balls, leopard geckos, pictus geckos, and this will be my first year for hogs and children's pythons...so fingers crossed!

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Thanks for everyone who chipped in! I was really just curious I breed a few balls, leopard geckos, pictus geckos, and this will be my first year for hogs and children's pythons...so fingers crossed!

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Hey just wanted to chime in, don't let people tell you that you can't make a living doing anything reptile related. So many times I see breeders who sell $20,000 snakes give the old "it's a hobby that pays for itself, I barely break even". I don't know if it's to discourage you from becoming competition, an attempt to limit the amount of people who get involved with breeding because the market is extremely flooded or any other reason. If you have passion for something and enjoy what you do, you'll find a way to make it happen.

There are a lot of high end geckos out there and many colubrids that produce large clutches with high end morphs. You can do it.

A lot of people use geckos and other herps to fund their ball, blood, GTP, etc. A buddy of mine breeds Geckos, corns, and bearded dragons to fund his ball projects. He also breeds rats and sells them. He makes more off the small stuff all year long than he does the high $$$ stuff. He gets his name out there this way and gets repeat business NEVER FORGET ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN!

Once I get into an actual house and not my trailer, I plain on expanding my balls a little but I also want to do something with carpets, SD retics and maybe some gecko stuff but not sure there maybe scorpions instead haha and I also want to get into breeding dogs, sled dogs mainly, ill be looking for land when it's house time so I can have a sled dog pack and breed the puppy's train them and sell them :)

The biggest thing here is that you have to spend money to make money. If you want to make enough money in breeding geckos to quit your day job, you have to drop a big stack of cash to do so. Same with the BP's for the most part. You can't just have a few pairs of geckos and expect to make a living off them. It takes a lot of money and a lot of time to make enough to live comfortably off of any business venture, no matter if its BP's, geckos, frogs, whatever it may be.

I was going to start breeding hedgehogs until I found out my fiance was pregnant

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