Post shed pics

Sterling Pied
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC00812.jpg
Sterling and Pewter Pieds
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC00814.jpg

Sandblast Pewter
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC00817.jpg
For those that may think its the het Pied causing the pattern disruption, here is the Sandblast with a Pewter 100% het Pied for comparison.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSC00820.jpg
This is the third year we have produced these vanished pattern animals and the second clutch this season...from the same male. I'm pretty sure we have a new gene just not sure how its working. Dom or recessive? As of now it is appearing recessive.

Thanks for looking.

Wow, very nice!

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Thank you! It will be interesting to see if the Sterling Pied developes spots with age.

Do you still believe the pied gene (het) is playing a role in the urban camo? Or have I got my genes mixed up again lol.

Simply stunning Brandon! Always a treat to see your projects :gj:

Amazing babies. I love the sandblasted pewter. :bow:

Very Nice hope you figure out what other gene may be involved.

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

Do you still believe the pied gene (het) is playing a role in the urban camo? Or have I got my genes mixed up again lol.

Simply stunning Brandon! Always a treat to see your projects :gj:

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Thank you! To answer your question.....yes and no.lol. I believe the extreme ringer condition is being cause by the pied gene, but we didn't start seeing the sandblast animals until we began breeding the 100% het stuff back into the project. The Urban Camo male sired two clutches this year and both produced some crazy animals.

Last season was our first year breeding back female offspring from the original female....which is where I believe the sandblast/vanishing is coming from. That clutch was from pewter het pied x pastel het pied, siblings from different seasons but same parents. Of the three egg clutch, two were sandblasts. From the results it's looking like it may be recessive.

Now comes the task of test breeding to normals.;)

Thanks again!

Really digging the sandblast. Goodluck and I hope you get it all figured out :)

Would love to have one of those in my rack.

Looks really cool. Can't wait to see how they turn out when you start breeding them again. Another exciting project in the crazy world of BPs.

Whatever it is, it's awesome!! :D

I'm curious, I've only ever seen you post sandblast pewters and pewter combos ... Have you gotten the effect at all on a pastel or cinny by itself, without the 2nd gene?

Nice :) :sweeet:

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

Whatever it is, it's awesome!! :D

I'm curious, I've only ever seen you post sandblast pewters and pewter combos ... Have you gotten the effect at all on a pastel or cinny by itself, without the 2nd gene?

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Not yet. The only reason is the first year we produced anything like them was 2010. We figured it was a fluke at the time, or it was the Pied gene at work. Last year we produced a few more...not a fluke. This year, three separate clutches.

This winter I'm going to start cross breeding with some of my other girls to try replicating it in other morphs. It's definitely genetic and I believe it is recessive in nature given the outcome we've had. The main reason we haven't seen it in our other morphs is because our focus was initially on the pewter pieds and trying to prove thing out.

The worst thing about this season has been the high male to female ratio. I may just have to keep all of the girls I have left. We sold one of the first back in 2010 and we have regretted it since.lol.