Burmese on Real World last night....

Ok I was a little angry last night. One of the girls from Real World- San Diego was at a pet store and bought a baby burmese python. They were showing her looking at it at the pet shop and they let her bring it home.

Well, they were showing her set up when she got home. No heat source, no hide, and a water bowl that probably only would hold a couple cups of water. Not to mention this snake was cramped in a 10gal long glass aquarium.

They showed her trying to feed it. The snake took no interest whatsoever in the mouse. She was trying to feed it a small white feeder mouse. This snake was already large enough to take down a small rat or gerbil. If I were that stressed out from my living conditions, I probably wouldn't want to eat either.

Did anyone else catch that?

Nope, I missed it, but that is truly unfortunate. I'm sure someone would have objected if she'd brought a puppy home and made it perch in a tree, but chances are none of the cast or crew even knew to object to how she treated the snake.

Ok. I probably haven't watched an episode of "The Real World" since the first season, but lastnight my 14-year-old son was watching tv, and he yelled to me (I was in another room) "Mom, come look at this snake!!!" So I run into the living room thinking he's watching Animal Planet, and it turned out to be "The Real World." It's true, there was no appropriate setup for the snake (at least not on camera), but the truly sad/disgusting part about it was that the snake and the mouse (which it would not eat) turned into this really pathetic metaphor about how two of the girls on the show interact with each other. Then there was this whole drama about the "poor little mouse." It was really awful. I don't know who I felt worse for - the snake or the people who watch that stuff regularly. (Ok, I know my son does, but he's 14, and it's MTV, and he just wants to see scantily clad women as much as possible.)

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Most people, and assuming also most people who saw this show, are not familiar with these snakes. It is unfortunate that these reptiles are being portrayed in a manner which displays irresponsible care, but those looking don't know any better.

Looks like its yet another step back for us and our hobby.

It could be a setback...or an opportunity. How about a flood of letters to the producers of that show explaining the proper care of burms? Maybe the can craft an episode (never watched the show and don't really know how it works) where someone points out how inadequate the setup is and they work to make it better? (I know, I know...in my dreams...)

--moving this to the Giant Pythons forum--

Not a bad idea, Judy. I doubt they would take the time to explain the proper care and keeping of snakes, but it would annoy them enough to possible think twice before doing something like that again.

I think they have a message board or something for communicating with the cast. If we could find it and make it a big issue there, it might get enough attention to get to the producers or the actual cast.

That would be great if we could find that message board!

I think this is it.

I couldn't find anything in the episode guide or flipbook with a snake of any sort. Can someone confirm which episide this is and which cast member got the snake?

It aired lastnight. That's all I know.

thats bull. is mtv even gonna do anything? they cant seriously just leave it that way.

Frankie got the burm.

You can send her a message here: http://www.mtv.com/community/profile...MTV_RW_Frankie

Good hunting, guys! Now we just have to flood her box with warm congratulations on entering the herp hobby and give some gentle, but persuasive advice on how to properly care for her new pet. :roll:

And here's the episode information: http://www.mtv.com/onair/realworld/s...ex.jhtml?id=14

(I knew I'd find it eventually.)

These episodes were all taped last summer. I know for a fact because a few weeks ago, an epsiode was aired which showed two of the girls in a surf shop in San Diego. Consequently, a friend of mine works at that shop. It was funny to see Brent in the background, compelely oblivious to what was going on. Thats just how he is though.

Point is that I hope this snake hasn't been neglected for this long. If so, chances are grim for the burm...

I just sent a message to her. I really hope she either brought it back or someone else informed her on its proper care.

has anyone read the "evil" discussion about frankie and her snake???????

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I just sent a message to her. I really hope she either brought it back or someone else informed her on its proper care.

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way to go!! i read it. i only hope that she has gotten help by now and that the snake is well

I caught the episode. My relatives scream for me to come into the room whenever a snake is on, lol.

That burm was flat out adorable. But assuming her caging conditions stayed the same, it'd be dead by now. RI would have set in and suffocated it.

i also saw the episode and she said she wanted a snake but she didnt say what kind she said " i want one that gets big but doesnt cost alot" or something like that and the guy at the store offerd her a burm even though he did bring out a REALLY big one for her to see i dont think she really cared. it makes me mad when people just go out and buy an animal when they have no clue about it whether it be a snake or somthing else. ohhh and just incase all of u guys dint see it, brad got a snake too it was an albino one i think it was a new fad in the house.

I noticed it also. But there was a heat source in the form of a under tank heater. Hopefully they info her a hide spot and keeping a correct temp gradient. Plus humidity. Also one of the other house member's ended up having an albino burmese. Wonder if he knew what the hell he was doing or getting into. Come on if you know nothing on how to keep a snake healthy how are you going to keep a snake that is sure to get a tleast 15 feet! IDIOTS!!!!

The sad thing is, three of them from the real world got burms, I highly doubt they know or even care about the setup or care those giant snakes need, and I'm sure once they hit 7-8 ft they'll be looking to get rid of them ...

ok,i know brad and frankie got one but who else did ??

i think the other one was jacquese (however you spell his name)

and they did show how big the snake gets, and franki prbably though it was "cool" or something

and they made friends at the pet shop, and the guys from there brought big snakes over, and they had a rabbit, and it was alive to begin with, and cold, so robin tried to warm it up with a hair dryer, and it had convulsions and died, so they just placed it in the water and watched it float away

then later, they put a dead mouse in a plastic bottle, and lit it on fire!

ugh! thats just sick.

I saw it last night, it was on the after show thingie and the name of the show was called "the sh*t they shouldve shown" and i turned it on just in time to see them put it in the bottle, cover it with paper,set it on fire and send it out to sea. It was pretty bad but the mouse was dead already, the way you described it it sounded like it was alive or somthing.

I live in San Diego, and i KNOW and have BEEN to that pet store, let me point out that it is one of the worst pet store EVER, they tell you anything to buy something, I went in there to buy my snake, i bought one for 40 dollars it was a baby,BTW The BAD pet store is called Pet Kingdom, so anyways they told me they were ALL captive bred, well i am not sure if thats right but let me explain the BP, so i went to these REAL experts, and they said it was a little thin adn to feed it more, i told them i just got it, so anyways i got home, it refused food, i was holding it, well what did i see? A MITE CRAWLING ON IT!!! >:( it really pissed me off, i returned it imidiatly (For store credit >:( ) my dad said to just get another snake to see how it is, so i got a larger yearling, and well what did it have? MITES (it could have been from the other BP, i think it was) oh and what did it do? bite the **** out of me like 10 times, so i sold it to the pet store i speak highly of(THE PROS) its called vets pets, and they got rid of the mites and bought it for 20 bucks, i bought a BP from Petco for there summer special, for 30 dollars. so in conclusion, its not frankies fault, Pet Kingdom doesnt care at all, AND when i told them it had mites and that it wouldnt eat, they said they didnt have the mites a week ago because they just cleaned there cage, i talked to another person about there feeding schedules and that OTHER person said they dont know because they just got them friday(this was on a wednesday) which means that they were not even there a week ago, which leads me to think they were wild caught, my BP(the one i have now) got mites, i got prevent a mite and havnt seen them since, so thats my amazing, horrible story about Pet Kingdom.

PS: I know it was pet kingdom because they have the same exact set up and they have the huge turtles, and they DO have a wide collection, yet there liers cheaters and stealers( they steal your money ) so in conclusion, (im done with my rambling) frankie was not at fault, she trusted the petstore, like i did.

Um that pet store probably does suck like many do, but they didn't put a gun to her head and force her to buy the burm. At least they did show her how big they get so she'd know what she was getting herself into. She's the one responsible for doing her research and she's the one who decided to buy an animal on impulse that she had no experiance in caring for.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think I would return a pet because of a mite or because it bit me. It is important to pick out your animals carefully and know where you're getting them from (I learned this the hard way). But once I have a pet, I get so immediately attached to it and feel responsible for it that I don't think I could just return it. I feel sorry for those snakes. :(

ok first off, my dad made me return it and get another one when it bit me, and struck at him he got really pissed and just made me sell it. i guess i should have told you that too. oh and the mouse, the aggresive BP bit the mouse, didnt strangle it, but bit it to death.

Bit it to death ??

i didnt know that was possible for a bp

Erm, could you format your posts a little, that's kinda hard to read :)

Btw, (even this is a really old thread) I think Franky should have looked into what she was getting into. Adult burms are huge.

no it is possible because it happened my snake bit it and just kept its teeth in then took them out and then did it again in its head and it started bleeding and it was twitching, so yes it possible why i just say that if it didnt happen, jeez... sorry im in a bad mood.

Deep Breaths everyone.

ok ok ok.....whew, sorry

the only reason i asked is becuase usually snakes just suffocate prey to eat it, not bite it.

I never said it was impossible, I just didnt know it WAS possible, Ive never heard of a snake doing that.

They all got one. I know Jacquese personally, and he has an albino Ballor Burmese Python (he doesn't know). It got about 3ft. long and he is now scared to touch it, or clean its cage, because he thinks it will bite him. If it is a ball python I am going to take it off his hands, another case of the "OH! cute baby snake!"! lol. I do know him personnaly, and he is really nice. They all got one eventually.

To scared to clean its cage ??? Sounds like a problem to me..........People like that just shouldent own snakes.Its a shame,it really is.

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They all got one. I know Jacquese personally, and he has an albino Ballor Burmese Python (he doesn't know).

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I don't think he woulda come across a baby albino ball in a pet store... at least cheap enough to buy on a whim. If he did... you're lucky!

Yeah i was thinkin the same thing .

I've seen his snake. Its an albino ball or burm. And yea, he needs to give his snake to someone cus he is scared to clean its cage and stuff. He thinks its gonna bite him. But he still feeds it.

In House:
3.4.0 Burmese Pythons
0.1.0 Reticulated Pythons
0.1.0 Indian pythons
all Rescues. People really need to do some research before obtaining a large snake.
If you consider boas as larger snakes we have plenty of those too.
Read a book
Rusty
(sorry this is a little rough around the edges, I'm haveing a bad day)I am sure you get my point.
Thanks

Is Frankie the one with the illness, and she doesn't
t expect to live past 25 or something? Thats only a couple of years and a snake is a commitment. She had no right to buy an animal that would grow to that size and be such a time commitment if she did not make arrangements fo it first. Dumb *****. It is the owners responsibility to find these things out and ask the right questions, grrr.

its an albino burmese, and trust me if it was an albino ball they would sell it for what its worth, they have an albino monitor there for $25,000, and there turtles are aroudn the same price, the huge ones.

Oh, well he is scared of it now, wait till it gets 12ft+!

omg, i stopped reading this post after a while ( i dont know why, but i did)


and i just read over it again (all the posts i hadnt read)


and i had been to that store!!!


it was the only store i went to when i was there


and i wasnt pleased with it at all, to say the least


i dont know what else to say




except, i dont know who mentioned it, but said it was either a bp or a burm, how can you not tell by now if its 3 ft?


try looking at pictures online to help show you



although, if its jacquese, then he was always holding an albino burm on the show




hope the snakes are in good shape, even though their keepers arent the best

I couldn't tell because its hard to tell the difference between albino bp and burms....but then its a burm because its thte same one he had on the show.

yeah and plus i dont think he could afford an albinp BP like somebody else already said.