Gimmie the skinny PLZ

Can someone please give me a simple order of events in the change of the female ball python during her preparation for laying? I know the changes (bowl hugging, glow, shed, bumpy, bloated, tail suck, etc) but can not remember the order of the events nor the timing. I have a female that looked bloated, then bumpy and in shed and has been visiting with a male. I am trying to figure out which stage she could be in. Thanks in advance.

Read this its all anyone needs to get breeding down to an art ;-)

Good stuff.

http://www.ballpython.ca/gallery/breeding.html
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That site is great. Next question: can she be in shed while ovulating?

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Originally Posted by Ladybugzcrunch

That site is great. Next question: can she be in shed while ovulating?

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Indeed she can.
Doesn't always happen but I had my girl in the last couple days of ovy last season deep in shed

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Ditto on the website. Has lots of good info. Also, we have had girls shed late during the cycle

Okay we are going in the right direction. Does this look promising to you? (She was wrapped around the bowl halfway inverted before I removed the bowl and took the pictures. The last photo is 24-48 hours prior.

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps770e6755.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps0925ca41.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps61d37784.jpg

She just looks gigantic to me.

For one she's gorgeous.

And 2, yup. She looks like good things be coming.


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Thanks. She shed today and was laying coiled and partially inverted. I really did not expect this since she has been with a male (many times) but I never witnessed a lock. If she goes, he will be deemed Mr sneaky pants!

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Next question: can she be in shed while ovulating?

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I have never seen nor have I ever heard of a female ovulating while in shed, that's not how they operate from my experience.
Preov shed, then glow, then ovulate then prelay shed.

Well just in case I put the male with her again today. He lined up with her right away but then the moved around and no lock as far as I know. I would be a great first clutch, common black magics!

Just checked on the happy couple and the female actually has her tail in the water bowl. Do you think she is trying to hide it from the male? Today is day three so he comes out tomorrow anyway. My other couple is happily locked, yeah.

This is getting a bit crazy. This female is in shed again????? She already shed once this month. Yesterday she is in deep blue again?

She is getting ready to lay

Well I would love to believe that but she took a 60 gram live rat from me on Thursday (that is after refusing a 140 gram f/t rat). I thought they did not eat after ovulation? Confused.

The one rule of breeding ball pythons is....they don't always follow the rules.

My mojave female ate a small rat for me on Sunday, and laid on Tuesday.

My normal girl stopped eating before she even developed follicles.

One girl went 47 days after prelay shed before she laid.

One went just 19.

Just be patient my dear. They do these things on their schedule, not ours.

And you want to talk about huge, this is a pic of my normal Akashi when she ovulated:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/IMG_0149.jpg

She laid 12 eggs for me.

Gale

Wowzers she is big! Thanks for the kind words guys. I really would like a clutch from her :)

Well she refused her rat yesterday and it was a big juicy live one. She usually wont turn these down. And she was soaking in her water dish. I want some dern eggs.:P

OMG she is in shed again:O That makes 4 times in 2 months!

I have never had an adult snake shed more than once a month, and that was on a very heavy feeding schedule.
I suggest looking for mites in those water bowls...:snake:

Absolutely no mites. I am very meticulous about parasites.

She is only eating about every 10-14 days now (even though I offer every 5-7) anywhere from a 60-140 gram rat. She is about 2 years old and about 2000 grams.