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Can you believe this?

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  • 10-11-2012, 08:30 PM
    angeluscorpion
    Can you believe this?
    I myself am a avid hunter. I grew up thinking that you dont kill it unless you are gonna eat it. Now I can understand hunting coyotes if there are to many and they causing damage and not eating them. But there is no good answer to why this happened for the response it got http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...68279013_n.jpg. To me this was senseless and people need to educate themselves.

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    I just realized you cant see the rest of it so...the picture is called a good start to the day and it shows 56 rattlers that were all pulled from one den and killed. It was taken from facebook where most people were cheering the killing of the snakes. The few people that asked why this was done or said that there was no need were ignored while everyone else added "kill em all" and "the only good snake is a dead snake".
  • 10-11-2012, 09:28 PM
    fishdip
    My mom has a dress and a purse made out of 100% rattle snake. In the area we live a girl a very long time ago like 1950 killed off something like 1000 in one din and made the dress and stuff.
  • 10-11-2012, 10:08 PM
    angeluscorpion
    This is no better than the round ups
  • 10-11-2012, 10:11 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Rattlesnake roundups are nothing new. People have no shame in killing hundreds of rattlesnakes. They feel they're doing a GOOD thing.

    I mean, it's one thing to kill a rattlesnake in your yard because you have kids, etc, it's another to just slaughter them because you can..
  • 10-11-2012, 10:20 PM
    RoseyReps
    Wasn't there a video floating around about this time last year of a rattlesnake round up trade show / photo op booth? Where they had a few 5-6ft rattlers for photo ops for kids etc, and when the guy video taping asking what the danger was the girl was like "oh, no danger what so ever! Their mouths are sewn shut *big smile*" *cringe* Makes me sick to my stomach. Sew a live rattlers mouth shut, no biggie. How much of an uproar would you get if you did a photo op with a furry animals mouth SEWN SHUT! Freaking sickening.

    *continues to ramble and rant* sew their mouths shut
    *grumble grumble* see how they like it
    *snarl* hope they get eaten by a gold fish..
  • 10-11-2012, 10:26 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    I'm curious as to how they manage to see its mouth shut without getting bit :/
  • 10-11-2012, 10:37 PM
    RoseyReps
    from a quick google search, this video came up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGUxDd2YFQA
    supposedly they freeze them for 2hrs then sew the mouths shut. Not sure of the credibility of this video, just showing what I found real quick.

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    They also show a guy who looks to be sewing a mouth in the background at the end. Not real clear, but you can tell it's a snake hanging there. If you get upset seeing a hanging snake, don't watch to the end :(
  • 10-11-2012, 11:48 PM
    JaGv
    Re: Can you believe this?
    i know we here at bp.net are all snake lovers but i see nothing wrong with killing rattlers. i would kill rattlers to eat and for their rattlers.
  • 10-12-2012, 12:10 AM
    I-KandyReptiles
    I've been searching YouTube, and this video seriously bugs me ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ES2G...e_gdata_player
  • 10-12-2012, 12:13 AM
    angeluscorpion
    Re: Can you believe this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JaGv View Post
    i know we here at bp.net are all snake lovers but i see nothing wrong with killing rattlers. i would kill rattlers to eat and for their rattlers.

    As long as there is no waste I have no problem with it, my problem lies with killing just because you can and the stupidity of the masses
  • 10-12-2012, 12:21 AM
    Ridinandreptiles
    My problem is the I humane methods of slaughter and the mockery if the snakes
  • 10-12-2012, 04:06 PM
    fishdip
  • 10-12-2012, 04:31 PM
    GuNDeZZZ
    Quote:
    This is disgusting

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  • 10-12-2012, 04:54 PM
    FoxReptiles
    These are the same people that will be complaining that the huge increase in wild rats and mice in their area is getting out of control throughout the winter! Why are we seeing so many more rats and mice this year than last! Hrm....
  • 10-12-2012, 05:35 PM
    fishdip
    Re: Can you believe this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GuNDeZZZ View Post
    This is disgusting

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    What part?
  • 10-12-2012, 07:00 PM
    MorphMaster
    Idk anymore. I'll be honest, it seems to be people that bug me... They are drawn into this misconception by the media n its sickening. I'm just tired guys... I'm just tired.......
  • 10-12-2012, 07:37 PM
    GuNDeZZZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fishdip View Post
    What part?

    The entire concept of sewing an animals mouth shut... its messed up.

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  • 10-18-2012, 12:10 PM
    foxoftherose
    Rattlesnake roundups are a particularly sore spot with me. There's a group called RARR (Rise against rattlesnake roundups) that seems to be raising a lot of awareness about this.
    Rattlesnakes are frequently killed in my area just for living near houses. Seriously, they aren't difficult to relocate, but people just don't seem to care.
  • 10-18-2012, 01:12 PM
    S.I.R.
    Re: Can you believe this?
    Rattle snake round ups are disgusting! End of story. To sew their mouth shut, the snakes are tranquilized and then sewn shut. When they wake up, they are being used as toys for kids. Also, some of the methods used to get the rattlesnakes is hideous like pouring gas down in a nest and lighting it on fire forcing them to come out where they want them to. Check out Urban Jungles Radio and/or Danny Mendes for more info. There is also an article in a recent Reptile Magazine showing some of the disturbing behavior. I grew up in the sticks and still live in the country to this day, I also like to hunt and fish, so I am no tree hugger, but to kill simply for amusement sounds like a bunch of serial killers in the making. Sorry to get on my soap box, but this practice needs to stop!
  • 10-19-2012, 10:29 AM
    ididnessie
    This is actually the first I have heard rattlesnake roundups. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that people actually treat them in such a horrible way. Just because something can be dangerous doesn't mean it needs destroyed, captured, tortured or killed.. It is just as easy to in fact probably easier to just avoid the animals and/or take safety precautions around them. What really bothers me though is that one day if they ever become endangered or even when the amount of mice and rats add up as someone stated before people will complain and take notice then. If these people where doing this to any cute, fuzzy, or well know/loved animal there would be an uproar about it. The only reason there isn't is because so many people fear snakes and don't understand them. This of course just brings me to the one thing hate about people is that the majority of us want to destroy or change things we fear or don't understand. I can just keep going on about this though so I guess I will just stop here before I decided to write a book on why this bothers me...
  • 10-20-2012, 02:05 AM
    gsarchie
    I'm not against the killing if the animal is made use of. What I am against is the lack of any regulation! Even where there are regulations good luck getting a LEO to actually enforce any of them.
  • 10-20-2012, 03:52 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    All of you people who are opposed to this, please please PLEASE add Urban Jungles Radio (UJR) on FB! They are the primary group fighting the rattlesnake round ups and are making an impact. Stop talking and complaining about it and get on there and pass the word around.
  • 10-20-2012, 04:08 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Urban Jungles-Radio

    You have to do a friend request since its a regular page..

    Then there's a group you can join called..
    Rise Against Rattlesnake Roundups (RARR)

    The two best ways to stay updated on the roundups and get pertinent info to pass along that may change the minds of some of the ignorant and fearful.
  • 10-20-2012, 06:37 AM
    gsarchie
    Sent an email to UJR and also sent a request to join RARR. Turns out a friend from college is already a member of the group! No surprise that she works with rattlesnakes but didn't know that she was a member of the group.
  • 10-20-2012, 07:29 AM
    rabernet
    My job is the only building in a wooded area (backs up to Fort Benning). And rattlers are always showing up at our loading dock. I always find out after the fact that they've killed them.

    I can't really argue with it, because they are trying to protect the safety of the staff, but they know I don't like it. Unfortunately, I'm not experienced to handle hots to offer to relocate them, and I'm certainly not going to suggest someone else try to with no experience.

    There is one guy though who skins them afterwards and takes the meat home. I still protest it all the time, though I understand why they do.

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  • 10-20-2012, 09:45 AM
    kdreptiles
    Re: Can you believe this?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    As long as there is no waste I have no problem with it, my problem lies with killing just because you can and the stupidity of the masses

    x2. I wouldn't go killing 50 snakes for meat, that's too much, but I was going to go hunting for a couple of them to eat this year, never got around to it though. Was going to keep most parts like the skeleton and the rattle, perhaps articulate one, mount it and donate it to a middle or high school. Doing it without empathy for the snake results in a cruel death.
  • 10-25-2012, 12:16 AM
    Roadtrash
    I worked out at Palo Verde Nuclear Plant for a number of years and they had a process in play where if we saw a snake of any kind we called the fire dept. and they sent an experienced person out to remove the snake. I don't know if it ever happened but if you killed one the policy was you could be terminated.
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