f/t keep popping

I just made the switch to f/t tonight for my girl. shes about 170g. i dont know if this is kinda normal or not but i thawed the mice in water and dried them off a bit then warmed them up with a heat lamp. And both of them, when constricted, popped near in the belly region and intestines were hanging out. Is there a way to prevent this?

Usually it's due to either

The prey item being thawed too fast which is why I would suggest letting the prey thaw at room temp and then getting it warmed up with a hair drier.

The prey item having been thawed and refrozen previously.

I haven't had a pop, but I let mine thaw overnight in the fridge and then dip them in warm water for about... 15 seconds and then immediately give them to Sal.

You still give them to your BP wet?


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It may be just the batch of f/t that you acquired.

I always thaw my f/t, both mice and rats, by placing them in water, as hot as it will run from the faucet. I leave the f/t in the hot water for about an hour, then I replace the water with fresh hot water for about 10 minutes to get them nice and warm. Next I feed them to my snakes. I don't bother drying them, the snakes take them wet.

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Feed live. Problem solved, lol! I'm kidding, just kidding! When I fed f/t, I'd leave the rat/mice/other in a plastic Ziploc bag in the fridge overnight. They thaw out gradually in the cooler temps rather than a sudden temp change via dunking them in scalding water. At feeding time, I'd leave them in the bag and put it into a cup of lukewarm water to thaw and gradually heat the water until they were completely thawed and were warmed completely through. You don't want to "cook" the prey item, as that isn't good for your snake but a cold "mouse-cicle" isn't good either. You can warm the head with a hair dryer (from experience, DO NOT let your significant other catch you using theirs if you elect to use this method!) or you can use the heat lamp to warm the head on the prey item to give the snake a heat signature to lock onto. Sometimes they just explode on you and that's that but if you thaw them gradually and don't dunk them into hot water straight out of the freezer, you might have better luck. Good luck and hope that helps.

Yeah I give them to my guy slightly damp. The water is warm and he just goes for the mouse without question.

When I do F/T, I heat mine up slowly in lukewarm water for 15 minutes, then cover them in the hottest tap water I have. Once heated, I slightly wipe them off(still damp) and feed them. Never had any issues.

I had the same issue when I would thaw them quickly in hot water. Now I let them thaw in the fridge over night and warm up in water this has given me far fewer pops but I still get them once in a while.

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You still give them to your BP wet?


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When I feed f/t they are always sopping wet.

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is it really that bad if they pop?? i have had a couple pop when they coil them but they didnt seem tp slow down eatin them lol??

It seems the chance to pop is increased by thawing directly in water. I'd try putting it in a bag in water (that's what I do).

To those of you who feed wet... don't you find it increases the chance of substrate getting stuck to the prey and going down the hatch too?

I saw the picture of the snake that got a bit of paper towel caught in its mouth while swallowing and died what looked like a horrible death. I'm very careful that the rats are dry after that.

I thaw mine in the fridge overnight also. When its feeding time they get about 80 degrees for 20 min, 90 degress for 20 min, then as hot as my tap puts out (around 120-130) for 5 min. That usually puts them in the right range. They stay in a ziplock bag the whole time so i dint have to worry about wet rodents.

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I may be the laziest owner ever judging by the responses. When I get my block-o-rats, I already know I'm lazy in the future. I spend about an hour weighing and individually packaging the rats in ziplock baggies and write the weight on the bag. I then throw them back into a big freezer bag by size (40-49gram, 50-59gram, etc.) Depending on which size which snake needs, it's easy to grab and go. It's also super easy to weed out the too small sized rats for future dog treats. :)

After that, it's put the bag in the tupperware labelled "rats" fill with good old tap water and let thaw overnight. (one of my guys is a morning eater), so I turn on the warm tap, hit the coffee machine's brew button, empty the tupperware water and fill with warm water, let sit for as long as it takes me to stand upright, remember the tongs, and walk to the office. Viola. Slightly above room temp, dry rat for drop in.

Although, sometimes, when he's being picky, I let the container of warm water sit by his cage with the ziplock bag open to "waft" in the smell. Makes my office stink for a day, but boy does he come out and start 'hunting.' I haven't ever had a pop, sinus cavity break, or more than just a slightly damp rat (which it's small enough amount of water it won't hurt him). Now the quail? HA! Yeah right. He won't touch those at all. Even when I set up a "den" for him to find, he only just ate the large rat and left the 5 fuzzies. He's a little brat like that. So, the other 92 fuzzies are now doggie mice-icles. He's a healthy and svelte 992 grams at two and half years old. Granted, when I rescued him he was still on 2 fuzzies at a time per week at a year and half. He was barely 400 grams. :rage:

Oh yeah, did I mention I have an electronic food logging system? That's why the rats get weighed. Plus, it shows me trends in his eating patterns. It helps so I don't freak out when he has one of his "moods". The others are easy feeds. /shrug

It's all the same on the way out, don't sweat it.

I've ran into this a lot actually. At first I thought it was because I or them thaw too long. I used to let them sit over night. So I started only letting them sit 4-5 hours in dry air. Then heating them under the lamp minimally. It also happens is you put one under the lamp and the snake doesnt eat so you set it to the side and reheat. The good news is it doesn't hurt the snake. And somehow they still consume most of it with the exception of some of the wet stuff. Aside from it being kind of disgusting and smelling kind of bad it doesn't really seem to hurt anything. Just air thaw for 5 hours or so and heat once. For the most part you'll be fine.