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Fire???
Just wanted to see if u guys see Fire in this little female? The owner says it's a Fire, it's not that its being said it's a normal and i see fire. Thanks
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/07/ygaze3ut.jpg
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Possibly. Better pic would help. But just looking at it i would say normal or a lesser quality fire.
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Re: Fire???
Its a nice bright snake. For a fire the head stamp is a little vague. Could be a fire but I'm not convinced.
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I just don't really have alot of experience with this morph to know for sure & the pic quality is pretty bad.
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Re: Fire???
it's hard to tell. but then again every fire i have seen has a very noticable head stamp.if you're looking to buy and you're unsure of it being a fire i'd pass.
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Originally Posted by JaGv
it's hard to tell. but then again every fire i have seen has a very noticable head stamp.if you're looking to buy and you're unsure of it being a fire i'd pass.
No, even worse, they want to trade me for my male bee that's the same size.
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i would pass honestly the color is bright yes but fires have a creamy and or yellow buttery color that guy screames nice bright normal
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Re: Fire???
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Originally Posted by Robert093090
No, even worse, they want to trade me for my male bee that's the same size.
Male bee for a fire???? That doesn't compute.....why would they think they could get a more expensive snake for a less expensive snake?? and why would you consider it? That thing looks normal to me....
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Originally Posted by Austin C.
Male bee for a fire???? That doesn't compute.....why would they think they could get a more expensive snake for a less expensive snake?? and why would you consider it? That thing looks normal to me....
I was asking for $$ on top, i passed on it.
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It is possible I suppose that it was a fire, but if so it was certainly not an animal I'd want to own for breeding or any other reason. Fires should be easy to pick out, they should scream "anything but normal" like my own babies do.
People breeding poor quality to poor quality just to make a morph and hopefully turn a buck is why you see so many animals that are questionable at best as to the morph they represent.
Gale
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Re: Fire???
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Originally Posted by Robert093090
I was asking for $$ on top, i passed on it.
that is good hold on to your bee.
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If you can't tell what the morph is(if it is even a morph?), its a good indicator that you shouldn't buy the animal.....
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reduced pattern het. fire:snake:
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Originally Posted by waterpython78
reduced pattern het. fire:snake:
tell me more of het. fires...
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Originally Posted by Mike41793
tell me more of het. fires...
Nah. That ain't a het fire! It's a het vanilla!:p
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Re: Fire???
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Originally Posted by Mike41793
tell me more of het. fires...
Dont you know!!?? Itīs the same as het mojave, or het pastel......or super pied, super albino. Everybody knows about them!!! :D
(Please dont start explaining about the homozygous and heterozygous form and blablabla....I know):)
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last time i saw a het fire, it looked like that one, but a little lighter in color.
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Originally Posted by waterpython78
last time i saw a het fire, it looked like that one, but a little lighter in color.
Seriously dude? Lol oh boy
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Re: Fire???
Aside from the het fire talk...here's my two cents
Check out the quality of the picture. You wouldn't be able to see how clean it is. The color quality just isn't there on the picture, so I think the only way to tell would be to see it in real life.
Now, as for whether you want to trade your male bumblebee for her...that's only for you to decide. I wouldn't consider that an insulting offer, personally. If you were having trouble selling a male ball python, getting a female ball python of a morph that's really hot right now isn't insulting. You might decide that you don't want the trade, but I wouldn't say you're getting shafted necessarily. Let's say both are 300 grams. The fire would go for around $350, and I'm not as familiar with bumblebee pricing, but wouldn't that be around $400-450?
Anyways, I'm playing devil's advocate here because crappy picture does not a scam make.
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Re: Fire???
I know this might seem a little off topic, but I am just learning about the different morphs. What does make a good fire? Pictures are always helpful.
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Originally Posted by angllady2
That baby is just gorgeous!!
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Re: Fire???
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Originally Posted by snakehobbyist
I know this might seem a little off topic, but I am just learning about the different morphs. What does make a good fire? Pictures are always helpful.
Fire is 100% a color mutation, pattern varies as much as it does in normal ball pythons. They're easier to pick out with a good picture and there should be no doubt whatsoever when shown next to a normal. Ask for pictures outside when it's overcast for best results - too much sun is as bad as too much flash.
Top 3 snakes are fires of different "shades", middle snake is a normal for comparison:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03838.jpg
Left snake is a normal next to a busy patterned fire and a more reduced fire:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03871.jpg
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Originally Posted by Robert093090
The clear belly is promising but normals can and do have clear bellies too. Fires can have some pattern on their belly as well, so.. I'm seeing a headstamp in these but that's no guarantee either. If I were buying from an unknown source I'd want to know the pairing, see pictures of the adults and a couple clutch shots.
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I would still pass on the snake unless you want her as a pet. Even if it was a fire, its not good quality fire. When breeding animals, you want to breed the best quality animals to get good quality offspring.
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Originally Posted by satomi325
I would still pass on the snake unless you want her as a pet. Even if it was a fire, its not good quality fire. When breeding animals, you want to breed the best quality animals to get good quality offspring.
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I passed on it since yesterday, he just sent me those today
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