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  • 10-05-2012, 05:17 PM
    MaxT815
    Looking for ASF genetic info
    Hello I am getting into the process of breeding my feeders, and I was wondering if anybody would care to explain some of the genetics to African Soft Furs, or where to obtain this information as I can't seem to find much. I find it interesting and would like to understand a little better to play around with while breeding my feeders. I need something to contemplate in between BP breeding season! I know there are quite a few different colors and coats, I was curious what the proper identification of them where, and how they interact with eachother, also I've seen a bit about megacolon and how its tied to certain genes? If anybody has any good info or advice I'm interested in hearing. Thanks.
  • 10-05-2012, 05:22 PM
    Inknsteel
    I don't think there is nearly the genetic diversity in ASFs as there is in rats, but if memory serves me correctly, there are different eye colors and coat colors you can try to breed for. I only have a small ASF colony and they're all pretty standard brown and white hooded looking.
  • 10-05-2012, 07:48 PM
    MaxT815
    Yea see I have a couple different types but I don't know what they're called. I was also wondering if different things will pop out or do I have to have one already to produce more like hairless or dumbos. Do they just pop out and I hold back or to I have to find somewhere to get different ones first? Thanks for the response man. Anybody have any in depth genetic info for ASFs? How to identify or anything?
  • 10-05-2012, 09:49 PM
    John1982
    I picked up 2.2 last September. One pair was the standard hooded looking ASFs while the other pair was almost all brown and half again as large. I've only bred hooded to brown so far(have my first all brown and all hooded colonies ready to pop any day now) and I've gotten a mixture of both types though the browns are still growing quite a bit larger than the hooded. I was hoping to produce larger hooded ASFs by mixing the lines but it seems only the browns have the capacity for largeness in my colonies.

    Here are some growouts. Notice the brown is still the same size as the hoodeds. They grow at the same rate but the browns just keep going after the hooded have maxed out.
    http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/DSC03224.jpg
  • 10-05-2012, 10:14 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    I have 4 different ASF colors.

    The standard white and brown, pure brown, brown with white on their foreheads, and ambers which are white and orangey brown with red eyes.
  • 10-05-2012, 10:38 PM
    don15681
    Re: Looking for ASF genetic info
    a lot of this is selected breeding. you want brown, breed ones that have the most brown to each other. or if you want white do the same. this post might be move as there's a section for asf. but here's 2 of mine.


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../soft_furs.jpg
  • 10-05-2012, 10:38 PM
    John1982
    Re: Looking for ASF genetic info
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    I have 4 different ASF colors.

    The standard white and brown, pure brown, brown with white on their foreheads, and ambers which are white and orangey brown with red eyes.

    Are your browns noticeably larger as adults than the others?
  • 10-05-2012, 11:17 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Are your browns noticeably larger as adults than the others?

    Not really. They're about the same size
  • 10-05-2012, 11:17 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by don15681 View Post
    a lot of this is selected breeding. you want brown, breed ones that have the most brown to each other. or if you want white do the same. this post might be move as there's a section for asf. but here's 2 of mine.


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../soft_furs.jpg

    Omg I want them
  • 10-06-2012, 02:36 AM
    don15681
    Re: Looking for ASF genetic info
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bobbafett View Post
    Omg I want them

    I have a couple tubs with these in them. notice one has dark ears and the other light ears. both dark eyes, not red.
  • 10-07-2012, 08:36 PM
    Kittycatpenut
    The specked/hooded gene is recessive, and the brown color is dominant over blonde, at least in speckled ones. I also have solid blondes, blonde head spots, and brown head spots. My next line breeding project will be for the almost completely white ones

    Blonde and brown speckled
    http://iherp.com/Gallery/97511/10685...5y0wV4pxho.jpg

    Solid blonde
    http://iherp.com/Gallery/97511/94532...5vSPJzs5R8.jpg

    Brown Head spot
    http://iherp.com/Gallery/97511/94530...60klosSiTm.jpg

    I have one that was born with a half tail, and I'm going to breed it to its sibling to see if it passes
  • 10-08-2012, 03:18 AM
    MaxT815
    Very nice guys. I currently have a blonde or beige hooded female and a augouti hooded male. This will be my first litter so im pretty stoked to see what comes out. I was curios though if lets say a rex coat will just pop up or do i have to get one carrying the gene?
  • 10-10-2012, 12:27 AM
    Simplex
    There are complex genetics for asfs. Im not familiar with them myself. But i have read through a genetic chart for them. And its quite lengthy.
  • 10-10-2012, 02:32 AM
    MaxT815
    Would you possibly be able to provide me with where you found that information?
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