Orange or Normal Ghost?????

Just wanted to get some opinions... I am getting ready to pair my 100% Het Ghost female to either my Normal Ghost or the Orange Ghost male. What do you guys think?

Normal ghost?

Orange ghost is the most prevalent type but there are others, none called "normal" :confusd:

Right, by normal I meant just the normal grey ghost.

There is no such thing as a grey ghost?

There is butterscotch, orange, and other lines of ghost, most being compatible with orange ghost but a grey ghost is something I've never heard of.

Sorry, not sure what you want... The snake is grey. This is a few words from Ralph Davis Reptiles, http://ball-pythons.net/images/nav/boas.gifhttp://ball-pythons.net/images/nav/bullet.gifhttp://ball-pythons.net/images/nav/pythons.gifhttp://ball-pythons.net/images/nav/bullet.gifhttp://ball-pythons.net/images/nav/miscellaneous.gif ---------- MORE BALL PYTHONS ---------- Albino Anerythristic Arctic Axanthic Banded Black Backed Black Head Burgundy Cinnamon Pastel Caramel Albino Clown Genetic Gold Striped Ghost/Hypo Goblin Granite High Gold Hyper Melanistic IMG Jaguar Jolliff Snow Labyrinth Jungle Lavender Albino Lemon/Lime Hypo Paradox Albino Pastel Jungle Patternless Piebald Pinstripe Platinum Red Axanthic Reduced Pattern Ringer Spider Tiger VPI Snow GHOST/HYPO_BALL_PYTHON http://ball-pythons.net/images/colle...ypo_01-alt.jpgScientific Name: Python regius Common Name: Ball Python Morph: Ghost or Hypomelanistic Genetics: Color Mutation - Simple Recessive ( NERD ) Ghost ball pythons are hypomelanistic........meaning lacking/reduced black and dark pigments ( browns and blacks ). They seem to come in may different flavors too? Through the years there have been green, yellow, orange, butterscotch and gray "GHOSTS".......they all are beautiful to see in person..........the reduction of dark pigment makes them appear "soft".............sometimes even blurry/hazzy to look at............thus calling them "GHOSTS"..........for their ghostly appearance...........oooooooooowwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Breeding the ghost as we call it......which is really a hypo, to an axanthic or anerythristic will produce the "TRUE GHOST"...........this is a project I hope to get double hets from in 2002..........axanthic x yellow ghost = double het for "True Ghost"........a True Ghost should look like a super ghostly axanthic.............once the "True Ghost" is produced.........it can be bred to an albino to produce double hets for BLIZZARD!!!!!!!!! There is nothing normal looking about a "Ghost" ball python..........thats for sure.............A Ghost / Hypo will shed clear like an albino ball python.............A very "Ghostly" looking head..........and over-all appearance makes this mutation very desirable in collections today.............Notice how the dark areas have light color "blushing" through?

There are many lines of Hypo like Jerry said. Most are OG though.

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Maybe pics of the snake would help, I'd really like to see him as I've never heard of a grey ghost before either.

Let me see if I can get one posted. I have never called it anything but gray. Maybe it's known by another name...

I think the OP is referring to just a ghost, or a hypo, the normal plain old nothing special type. Thats most of what we have here in Germany, their just called ghost. Orange Ghost is a different line, looks different, have those here too, but their more money.

I think by the way this thread is going, I will be breeding the orange ghost to the Het.

I would say breed the orange ghost to the het orange ghost, then anything you get will be orange ghost or het for it neway, then I would breed something else to the ghost get all hets and next year breed one back.

I don't see why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about. The OP clearly has in his signature that he has a plain hypo and a orange hypo and even a het hypo. With all the types of ghosts out there, orange, butterscotch, peach, citrus, ect what else could normal hypo mean? Simple plain jane ghost. On a side not I agree that you should breed the orange ghost, that way you get hets, orange and normal ghosts.

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Originally Posted by eatgoodfood

I think the OP is referring to just a ghost, or a hypo, the normal plain old nothing special type. Thats most of what we have here in Germany, their just called ghost. Orange Ghost is a different line, looks different, have those here too, but their more money.

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It takes the guy from Germany to clear up the PLAIN ENGLISH the guy from Mississippi is speaking...I knew what you meant right away. Basically, most miscellaneous hypos should be compatible with the "orange" hypo but there's no real way to tell for sure until you see what hatches. I have a "grey" hypo too and I just consider her to be "Hypo". I'm hoping whatever Hypo combo male I find and decide to breed to her when the time comes ends up being the kind she is. Bit of a roll of the dice. Keeps it interesting. :)

all names for the same dang thing that comes in several hues :rolleye2:

The color of hypos aren't always a line, it actually described the color when people breed for them. I read an article when I first got in the hobby basically summing up to you could breed a orange hypo to an orange hypo and get orange, yellow, butterscotch, and other colors. Orange hypos are hardly ever orange anymore, but now it just basically describes its from NERD's line. I wouldn't get bent out of shape over what it is called, just want to know if it is compatible with the common hypo, which 99% of the time, it is.

I probably shouldn't have said normal ghost when I started this thread. I should have just mentioned the two males as hypo and orange hypo. Sorry for the mis-wording.

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Thanks angel & ryant. You both summed it up nicely. I think some people just try to read too much in to things...

It would be nice if the name change stuck with this project.
A ghost is technically an axanthic hypo or "true ghost" as it has been dubbed.
Hypo is the single gene and they come in many colors which has different breeders calling them butterscotch, orange, etc...
Talk about confusing the masses with the same genetic :rolleye2:

*this was not aimed at the op, just a random "I wish" comment

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

It would be nice if the name change stuck with this project.
A ghost is technically an axanthic hypo or "true ghost" as it has been dubbed.
Hypo is the single gene and they come in many colors which has different breeders calling them butterscotch, orange, etc...
Talk about confusing the masses with the same genetic :rolleye2:

*this was not aimed at the op, just a random "I wish" comment

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Agreed. I think balls are they only ones with this problem. With being said I think true ghosts look bad ass. I plan on trying to make some in the future.