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Hold backs
Quick question from a first time breeder. I know it depends on the look of the animal itself first and foremost but do most breeders keep males or females of their clutches as holdbacks for future breeding plans? Which ones are prefered? I know this might sound stupid but I thought it would be a better idea to keep the females and raise them up rather then the males. Please correct me if I'm wrong and any input would greatly be appreciated.
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It depends on the snake and what their plans are with that snake. Sometimes people hold back the best of the best base morphs to produce more quality in the future. Some people have a specific plan in mind for what they want out of a breeding pair. Btw, you're very close to me :O.
What pairing didja do? What were you hoping to keep o_O?
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for me im still trying to build up my numbers so last year i kept all my females (2 pastels het albino and 3 het albino and 2 normals)and the 1 albino male i hit and sold the rest of my males. this year i plan on keeping all my females again and for the males it will depend on what i hit really hoping for a killer bee het albino male:please:
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Well I put my lesser male with my spider female and got 2 lesser bee females, 2 lesser bee males, a female spider and a female lesser. This was my first attempt at breeding.
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Re: Hold backs
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Originally Posted by Izzy&Kitty
Well I put my lesser male with my spider female and got 2 lesser bee females, 2 lesser bee males, a female spider and a female lesser. This was my first attempt at breeding.
Damn the odds gods love you! Awesome clutch!
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Those are some awesome odds! I' keep a lesserbee female (or both), then sell the others and maybe pick up a sweet morph combo to pair with the spider next year :D.
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Those are amazing odds. Got some pics to share?
1.0 Pewter (Dexter), 1.0 Butter Het OG (Butters), 0.1 Pinstripe (Honey), 0.1 Lesser (Pepper), 0.1 Butter Het OG (Aurora), 0.1 Spider Het OG (Betsy), 0.1 Mojave (Maya)
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Yea. I'll post some pics when I get home to my computer. For some reason I can't post pics on here from my phone.
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Like others said, it depends on what you are planning to breed in the future. Sometimes you will want to hold back a male, other times a female, it depends on what you already have and what you want to make. As for keeping males or females, it makes more sense to hold back more females than males since you only need one male to breed many females.
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Man thats a awesome clutch! Congrats! Way to crush the odds! :gj:
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As far as what im going for, im just trying to keep my collection small so instead of buying multiple gene animals what im trying to do is make my own and sell off the single genes when the double or even triple genes (in the future) become of age to breed. I do love all of my snakes and I love this hobby. My only fear is getting stuck with too many that I cant keep due to space. If i had the space I would never sell any of them.
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The first two pictures are of the female lesser bees. Of the two which one would you be more inclined to hold back? Any reasons?
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Originally Posted by Izzy&Kitty
The first two pictures are of the female lesser bees. Of the two which one would you be more inclined to hold back? Any reasons?
I personally think they are both gorgeous! But I love the face of the first one and the pattern is beautiful ;). If I had a choice I'd choose that one. But that's just me.
1.0 Pewter (Dexter), 1.0 Butter Het OG (Butters), 0.1 Pinstripe (Honey), 0.1 Lesser (Pepper), 0.1 Butter Het OG (Aurora), 0.1 Spider Het OG (Betsy), 0.1 Mojave (Maya)
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Yea that's the one I was leaning towards also. She looks a little cleaner then the other girl. But I love them both since they're our first clutch. I dunno. Decisions decisions...
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Re: Hold backs
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Originally Posted by Izzy&Kitty
As far as what im going for, im just trying to keep my collection small so instead of buying multiple gene animals what im trying to do is make my own and sell off the single genes when the double or even triple genes (in the future) become of age to breed. I do love all of my snakes and I love this hobby. My only fear is getting stuck with too many that I cant keep due to space. If i had the space I would never sell any of them.
It's good that you're considering these legitimate issues :gj:. A lot of people normally bite off more than they can chew, and sometimes, the animals pay the price.
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Originally Posted by Izzy&Kitty
The first two pictures are of the female lesser bees. Of the two which one would you be more inclined to hold back? Any reasons?
Both of them look really cool. I like the color contrast on the head of the first one, so I would probably choose that one :P. I'm sure you'll be happy no matter which one you choose :).
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If it was me i would hold back the first female lesser bee. i also like the spider too. congrats on great odds!
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Nice clutch, they look great. What you keep, would depend on your plans.
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Thank you all for your kind words and wisdom. I've decided to hang on to the first female and try to sell off the rest.
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good choice lol, what are your future plans going to be for the female lesser bee?
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Well I have a male enchi and a male pastel. Not sure which one will get her first but I guess I have a few years to figure that one out. What do you all think? Maybe something else?
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I also plan on adding fire to the mix maybe next year.
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i would keep 1.2 lesser bees... but at least the 2 female lesserbees.
reason. Multigene animals will help you produce 3-4 morph animals in the future
i would also think about keeping the female lesser... just in case you ever wanted to see some BELs in the future
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Well, I already have a male and female lesser that I'm waiting to pair for a chance at a bel. Right now she's still about 500 grams light but at around 2 and a half years old.
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Just about every clutch I want to hold back them all. I love all of them as soon as they hatch. Then when the next clutch hatches, I'm willing to let go of some of the first clutch. That to me is the hardest thing about breeding, not keeping EVERYTHING!!!
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How do you go about selling? I'm a new ie at that too.
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Re: Hold backs
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Originally Posted by Izzy&Kitty
How do you go about selling? I'm a new ie at that too.
Well, the first thing you have to do is establish a reputation for quality animals. Participation on the forums, like BP.net will get people familiar with you. Vending tables at local Expos is also a good way to get the word out. You can also join a local Herp club to get to know local enthusiast. Develop relationships with local breeders. The most important thing is to provide great animals and exceptional service. You do all that and you should have no problems selling.
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Yea, setting up a booth at a show isn't very cost effective for me since I'm small time. But I am fairly active on here and love my babies. I'm not trying to make money off of breeding. Just want to fund my hobby and stay informed. I love reading about and learning as much about them as I can.
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have you thought about keeping the male lesser bee, then when he grows up you can sell your current breeder lesser?
at least keep both those sexy female lesser bees.... and make some queen bees and some enchi lesser spiders
YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO
check your PMs
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I thought about that also. Im debating on which one though. Im going to have them listed for now and see what happens. If im left with the two males then I'll keep one and do exactly that.
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