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Question/ Hypothetical.

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  • 09-26-2012, 02:44 PM
    decensored
    Question/ Hypothetical.
    Hey guys,

    I was going through my list today, trying to figure out what I am going to be pairing this year. I was thinking about who I was going to pair my OG with and it I started thinking about the different lines of hypo.

    From what I understand, the orange ghost is not compatible with the green ghost. However, If I bred an orange ghost to a green ghost would I end up with double hets for green and orange? And, If I bred the offspring back to each other, is it possible to have a mutation that is both green and orange ghost? And likewise with Axanthics, is it possible to have a TSK+VPI axanthic that carries both strains of the gene, and would that animal now be compatible with any line of the mutation? And would it make a visual difference, between an Orange Ghost and an Orange Green Ghost, if said mutation was possible? :rolleyes: lol
  • 09-26-2012, 03:07 PM
    MaxT815
    Technically I guess so. I don't think anybody has tried it yet. That I know of anyway. Give it a shot. But yes to the axanthic scenario too. The different lines are not compatible with eachother but you can produce a snake that's het and homozygous for both lines. I don't know what it would look like though.
  • 09-26-2012, 03:16 PM
    Andybill
    I would assume it would work the same as any double recessive mutation but how it would look is beyond me... It could be a total surprise or complete let down. Or maybe one trait would dominate the other visually and you wouldnt really be able to tell. I dont even know what a green ghost looks like. Off to WoBP... :)
  • 09-26-2012, 03:24 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    As long as both mutations aren't on the same locus it should work (and being that they aren't compatible I would suspect that they aren't on the same locus) I know that in leopard geckos you can cross albino lines, but I also know that there are complications involved with the offspring in many cases. Worth a shot, in fact I was thinking about what a OG x Desert Ghost would look like the other day. As with any new cross be prepared for complications.
  • 09-26-2012, 04:39 PM
    decensored
    Hey Guys,

    It might be worth my time just to see what the outcome would be! I often wondered about it haha.

    here's the green ghost. There isn't much a difference.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/green-ghost/

    This is my Orange Ghost. He's lightened up awesomely and I would really like to see if I could get something even softer and cleaner. I might try the desert ghost! That was an awesome suggestion. I think that would complement it the most!

    http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/...OGHypo715M.jpg

    If I am going to go through with this what do you guys think I should play with?
  • 09-26-2012, 08:46 PM
    MaxT815
    I think desert ghost would be your best shot to radically change the color and pattern of what it produced. Id say esert for sure. If those are the only options.
  • 09-26-2012, 09:10 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    I would make sure you confirm the line is not compatible, there are quite a few people on both sides of the argument, I honestly think there might be two different lines of green ghost. I mean how else can people claim they are compatible and some claim they are not?

    I honestly don't even think you would be able to tell if you hit the double homozygous, but maybe something cool might pop up. Then again there is the risk of a bunch of unknown lines of hypos, be prepared for that.
  • 09-26-2012, 10:30 PM
    Andybill
    Re: Question/ Hypothetical.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I would make sure you confirm the line is not compatible, there are quite a few people on both sides of the argument, I honestly think there might be two different lines of green ghost. I mean how else can people claim they are compatible and some claim they are not?

    I honestly don't even think you would be able to tell if you hit the double homozygous, but maybe something cool might pop up. Then again there is the risk of a bunch of unknown lines of hypos, be prepared for that.

    Good points, but as far as confirming the line is incompatible wouldnt that be accomplished by breeding the 2 together and getting no hypos? Unless you mean talking to an expert or someone who has tried it personally to confirm their incompatible?
  • 09-26-2012, 10:36 PM
    Mike41793
    I would breed him to a fire or a pastel since hes so light! :gj:
  • 09-26-2012, 10:43 PM
    Quantum Constrictors
    He sure would go well with my pastel het OG now wouldnt he haha. Glad we live so close!
  • 09-27-2012, 05:44 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Question/ Hypothetical.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    Good points, but as far as confirming the line is incompatible wouldnt that be accomplished by breeding the 2 together and getting no hypos? Unless you mean talking to an expert or someone who has tried it personally to confirm their incompatible?

    I mean by talking to the person selling it, just don't tell someone you want their green ghost and just assume it will work the way you intended.
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