Question about breeding

Hi I'm new to this site and I would like to get into breeding some day. I'm wondering like do yall play around and breed whatever you want or are there certain ones you should breed together or what?

Also if there are any important tips about breeding or anything like that that yall think I should know please post :) I have been studying this stuff for a while

EDIT: what would be a good pair to start with?

You can look here http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Breeding-FAQs that will get you started. Also Justin Koblyka's youtube channel has a pro tips section and a morphs 101 section. Both of which will get you going in a hurry. Hope it helps.

As for what to pair, pick whatever you like and can afford. We want a lightning pied but cant afford one so we are going to breed our pied to the axanthic girl and do the double het pairing

There are some combinations that appear to be fatal. Things like champagne x champagne are a lethal pairing and the offspring usually die before hatching or shortly after. Other pairings like black pastel x black pastel have a strong chance for birth deformities.

Here is a thread with some info and pictures in it.

Otherwise most people breed what they want to.

I think the first think you should look for when picking out Ball Python morphs is quality. Often times I see new keepers picking up cheap pastels, spiders or pinstripes that aren't really the most gorgeous example of a morph. When I go ball pythons shopping (haha) I look for the best looking example of that particular morph. I like my spiders to have close to zero spots and high white sides. I like my pastels to have a lot of blushing and hold their yellow color.

I feel like there are too many people out there breeding low quality animals together to produce low quality offspring. Not saying you are going to do this or anything, but it is something to consider when you are bringing new animals into the world.

The next thing to pick out would be your favorite morphs. there are very few combos that are lethal but there are quite a few that have related birth defects. There are many videos and threads about various birth defects. I personally am going to avoid pairings that are prone to birth defects, but it doesn't always mean they won't happen. There have been quite a few birth defects this season that have been reported in a particular thread.

I'm not trying to scare you off from breeding, but you really need to do your research and be completely 100% ready for all scenarios. By breeding your animals you are taking on a huge responsibility. Just be prepared!

I am excited to start my first year of breeding this year. This is my 4th year of owning snakes and I don't think I would have wanted to breed any earlier. My girls I got 2-3 years ago are growing up nicely and I should have 4 females ready for this winter.

Play around on worldofballpythons.com and find which morphs and combos you really like. save up for baby snakes and raise them up to breeding sized adults. It will take some time, but it will give you experience raising babies and give you plenty of time to get all your ducks in a row. These animals are super fun and breeding can be a very rewarding experience!

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

I think the first think you should look for when picking out Ball Python morphs is quality. Often times I see new keepers picking up cheap pastels, spiders or pinstripes that aren't really the most gorgeous example of a morph. When I go ball pythons shopping (haha) I look for the best looking example of that particular morph. I like my spiders to have close to zero spots and high white sides. I like my pastels to have a lot of blushing and hold their yellow color.

I feel like there are too many people out there breeding low quality animals together to produce low quality offspring. Not saying you are going to do this or anything, but it is something to consider when you are bringing new animals into the world.

The next thing to pick out would be your favorite morphs. there are very few combos that are lethal but there are quite a few that have related birth defects. There are many videos and threads about various birth defects. I personally am going to avoid pairings that are prone to birth defects, but it doesn't always mean they won't happen. There have been quite a few birth defects this season that have been reported in a particular thread.

I'm not trying to scare you off from breeding, but you really need to do your research and be completely 100% ready for all scenarios. By breeding your animals you are taking on a huge responsibility. Just be prepared!

I am excited to start my first year of breeding this year. This is my 4th year of owning snakes and I don't think I would have wanted to breed any earlier. My girls I got 2-3 years ago are growing up nicely and I should have 4 females ready for this winter.

Play around on worldofballpythons.com and find which morphs and combos you really like. save up for baby snakes and raise them up to breeding sized adults. It will take some time, but it will give you experience raising babies and give you plenty of time to get all your ducks in a row. These animals are super fun and breeding can be a very rewarding experience!

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For some reason I haven't even thought about the quality of the morphs like that so its a good thing you mentioned lol. like duh.

and thank you everyone your replies were very helpful.

oh do you think I should just start with a pair or should I get more then that? money shouldn't really be a HUGE issue when the time comes

It's totally up to you how many snakes you think you can handle. I would start out with a young female first since they take a little longer to get to breeding age. Then you can get a male.

If you are like any of us, you won't stop at just a pair :) They are quite addictive. I just love thinking about all the cool combos I can make!

Well eventually I really want to get into this and do a lot of them I'm just worried it might be a little overwhelming the first time but I'm sure after that I'll have more of an idea of what to do lol.

Oh does anyone know about any weird laws California might have? I'm going to be moving there soon

EDIT: whats with yalls sigs like yours says

"5.5 Python regius
0.2 Normals 0.1 Pastel 0.1 Spider 0.1 Pastel Butter 1.0 Mojave 1.0 Pinstripe 1.0 Pewter 1.0 Lesser 1.0 Citrus Pastel Calico
1.0 Boa Constrictor imperator
0.0.1 Morelia viridis
0.0.1 Corallus hortulanus
0.1 Python breitensteini
1.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
2.6.too many! African Soft Furred Rats
0.1 Australian Cattle Dog - Zoe
1.0 Domestic Short Hair Cat - Charlie" what do the numbers mean

My first advice keep studying. You need to learn more about the genetics if you don't know there are specific things you should breed together. There are codoms, doms, and recessives. You need to know how they all work together and what results you will get when you breed different morphs to one another. There is an excellent genetics section on this site, I suggest you start there.

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Originally Posted by sugamama15

Oh does anyone know about any weird laws California might have? I'm going to be moving there soon

EDIT: whats with yalls sigs like yours says

"5.5 Python regius
0.2 Normals 0.1 Pastel 0.1 Spider 0.1 Pastel Butter 1.0 Mojave 1.0 Pinstripe 1.0 Pewter 1.0 Lesser 1.0 Citrus Pastel Calico
1.0 Boa Constrictor imperator
0.0.1 Morelia viridis
0.0.1 Corallus hortulanus
0.1 Python breitensteini
1.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
2.6.too many! African Soft Furred Rats
0.1 Australian Cattle Dog - Zoe
1.0 Domestic Short Hair Cat - Charlie" what do the numbers mean

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I'm in California. There doesn't seem to be any restriction on Ball Pythons or their breeding. They only have restrictions on venomous and crocodilian species.

And the signature is stating what animals Kaorte keeps.
1.0 = male
0.1 = female
0.0.1 = unknown sex

For example: 1.4 = 1 male and 4 females

Do you have any snakes now?? If the answer to this question is no, please purchase a single bp first and get to know the ins and outs of the species.

There's a stickied thread at the top of this sub forum called "so you want to breed?" or similar. It's a good thread everyone who wants to breed should read

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Originally Posted by rabernet

There's a stickied thread at the top of this sub forum called "so you want to breed?" or similar. It's a good thread everyone who wants to breed should read

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Well.... There used to be. Now I need to go find it.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

My first advice keep studying. You need to learn more about the genetics if you don't know there are specific things you should breed together. There are codoms, doms, and recessives. You need to know how they all work together and what results you will get when you breed different morphs to one another. There is an excellent genetics section on this site, I suggest you start there.

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I've read through a lot of the stickies. but yes i plan to keep studying about it. sometimes you can understand things better having a conversation with someone then just reading a thread though which is why i came here to ask. the morphs are what really confuse me because there are so many and i dont know much about them but im starting to get the hang of it

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Originally Posted by satomi325

I'm in California. There doesn't seem to be any restriction on Ball Pythons or their breeding. They only have restrictions on venomous and crocodilian species.

And the signature is stating what animals Kaorte keeps.
1.0 = male
0.1 = female
0.0.1 = unknown sex

For example: 1.4 = 1 male and 4 females

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thanks. ppls sigs were really confusing me lol. but so you dont need a license to sell them or anything like that?

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Originally Posted by sugamama15

so you dont need a license to sell them or anything like that?

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Not unless you have a business and it's your income.
If you vend at a show, they will require a temporary day license.

And I suggest contacting someone to mentor you through the breeding process.
It's really the best way to learn aside from literature.

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Originally Posted by satomi325

Not unless you have a business and it's your income.
If you vend at a show, they will require a temporary day license.

And I suggest contacting someone to mentor you through the breeding process.
It's really the best way to learn aside from literature.

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Yeah I was thinking something like that would be nice but idk anyone out there and are people actually willing to do that?

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLACC5F95E804DD5E5 - This one is about care and breeding
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9F0C420D3C7D428A - This one is about morphs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrHOBB5zoY&feature=plcp - This one is about breeding and costs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnonTji0FnM&feature=plcp - Another morphs video

Sometimes you run across someone willing to help you learn, other times you will run across someone who doesn't want to teach you anything. But people here have been very nice and often very willing to share experience and knowledge. You simply just have to ask, then pay it forward to the next newcomer you come across.

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Originally Posted by Simplex

Do you have any snakes now?? If the answer to this question is no, please purchase a single bp first and get to know the ins and outs of the species.

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This.

You should probably get one snake and see how it goes. If you just go dump money into a rack and 15 snakes to start you might quickly decide that you don't like to clean poop and change water for 15 snakes every day. Plus it's easier to learn this stuff and get husbandry down while you only have one snake. If husbandry is off on a bunch of animals and they all come down with respiratory infections your vet bill might put you in the poor house.

Found the thread and re-stuck it:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...gs-to-consider

A lot of good advice so far. I agree that it will benefit you to own a ball python, get lots of advice from this community (we're friendly :P), and continue to learn about morphs, care, potential health issues, breeding tips, and what to expect! You won't learn everything in 1 conversation ;)!

I would start by doing what Kaorte said. Get yourself 1 baby female ball python to raise to adulthood. You will learn about her feeding habits, experience their growth, and if anything should happen, you can gain exp from keeping her. After a year with her, you could pick up a male (most likely a morph male and female haha), then after another year raising him up, they'll both most likely be breedable! Then you can determine if you still want to breed, and what you want to breed :gj:.

Are you coming to SoCal, or NorCal?

Only quirk with California is that if the animal isn't on their "acceptable" list they can't be imported. This includes Hedgehogs and ASF.. Ball pythons are fine, though.

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Originally Posted by GoldSheep

Only quirk with California is that if the animal isn't on their "acceptable" list they can't be imported. This includes Hedgehogs and ASF.. Ball pythons are fine, though.

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X2! This is the perfect case where you need to ask what the animal is feeding on. Sometimes the breeder will say "eating great on ASFs", but in CA, we can't feed ASF. ASF is African Soft Furred rats, btw. Some BPs are picky for those.

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Originally Posted by Scubaf250

This.

You should probably get one snake and see how it goes. If you just go dump money into a rack and 15 snakes to start you might quickly decide that you don't like to clean poop and change water for 15 snakes every day. Plus it's easier to learn this stuff and get husbandry down while you only have one snake. If husbandry is off on a bunch of animals and they all come down with respiratory infections your vet bill might put you in the poor house.

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i have a corn snake but cleaning up the poop and stuff isnt a problem for me. i had an iguana once and they have like giant poops lol! and theyre pretty hard to care for so i think ill be able to handle it. i really like just taking care of them i think its fun but i for sure will not start out with 15

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A lot of good advice so far. I agree that it will benefit you to own a ball python, get lots of advice from this community (we're friendly :P), and continue to learn about morphs, care, potential health issues, breeding tips, and what to expect! You won't learn everything in 1 conversation ;)!

I would start by doing what Kaorte said. Get yourself 1 baby female ball python to raise to adulthood. You will learn about her feeding habits, experience their growth, and if anything should happen, you can gain exp from keeping her. After a year with her, you could pick up a male (most likely a morph male and female haha), then after another year raising him up, they'll both most likely be breedable! Then you can determine if you still want to breed, and what you want to breed :gj:.

Are you coming to SoCal, or NorCal?

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yes that was my plan. and south. riverside

:) i would just like to thank everyone for actually helping me and giving me good advice and being nice. there have been other forum sites i joined where people just jumped to conclusions i guess and were pretty mean to me and treated me like an idiot who could never learn rather then helping me to be smarter.