Guess the Colubrid - New Babies

Rep points to the first one to guess what this little fella is:

The only hint is that it is a colubrid......
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I don't know colubrids at all. But boy that little guys face has an angry look to it :)

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

I don't know colubrids at all. But boy that little guys face has an angry look to it :)

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They are still nice and sweet at this age.

Some sort of rat snake??

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A garter snake? I dont know if this is a real type but a white sided caramel garter??? Lol. I dont know colubrids at all.

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Some sort of rat snake??

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A garter snake? I dont know if this is a real type but a white sided caramel garter??? Lol. I dont know colubrids at all.

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No and No. Not a garter and not a rat snake.

pine or bull snake?

Is it a beauty snake?

hmm, Glossy?

Some sort of pine snake?

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Is it one of those weird rear fangy thing that don't look as adults the way they do as hatchlings?

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pine or bull snake?

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Nyet

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Is it a beauty snake?

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Iye

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hmm, Glossy?

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Nein

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Some sort of pine snake?

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Noooooooo!

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Is it one of those weird rear fangy thing that don't look as adults the way they do as hatchlings?

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Kinda sorta

Madagscar cat eyed snake??

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Since this post went up I have learned a lot about different Colubrids, did not know that Colubrids accounted for two thirds of all snakes worldwide and can be found in every continent except Antarctica... Learn something new everyday! :gj:

Mock Viper? :confusd:

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Madagscar cat eyed snake??

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Nope

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Since this post went up I have learned a lot about different Colubrids, did not know that Colubrids accounted for two thirds of all snakes worldwide and can be found in every continent except Antarctica... Learn something new everyday! :gj:

Mock Viper? :confusd:

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Nah

This is going to make me crazy. Now I have to know...:p

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This is going to make me crazy. Now I have to know...:p

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Wes already narrowed it down - rear fanged.

False water cobra?

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False water cobra?

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False!

Does not get as big and has very nasty venom.

Boomslang?

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Boomslang?

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No. Boomers have much bigger eyes. Much bigger GREEN eyes.

Boiga Cyanea!

One more page and I will throw out a hint. A little bit of a hint here - many snakes in this genus are green. I actually am cooking eggs out of one the green species right now.

These little fellows like a bit more of an arid environment and are a little mellower than their "green" cousins. The do posses a venom that is remarkable similar in composition to the nastier vipers in the area. The difference is that this species does not have as efficient a delivery system.

However, this is one species I wear gloves with.

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Boiga Cyanea!

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:colbert:

Philodryas olfersii?

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No. Boomers have much bigger eyes. Much bigger GREEN eyes.

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Lol, picked up on the green hint. Still struggling :p

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Orange-Bellied Crowned Snake (Tantilla ruficeps) ?

Patagonian... Green or Lancehead?

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Philodryas olfersii?

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Olfersii are green

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Orange-Bellied Crowned Snake (Tantilla ruficeps) ?

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No

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Patagonian... Green or Lancehead?

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Um, no

Thamnodynastes pallidus

Philodryas nattereri?

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Ohoo, I change my guess to Philodryas chamissonis until/unless I find something else that looks more like it! :D

Psammodynastes pulverulentus

Ok, my final answer is Philodryas psammophidea..

I give up.

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Ok, my final answer is Philodryas psammophidea..

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Yep.


They look exactly like my new clutch of naterreri.

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A little bit of a hint here - many snakes in this genus are green.

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Hint got me lookin at philodryas, cool snakes!

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Ok, my final answer is Philodryas psammophidea..

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Yep.


They look exactly like my new clutch of naterreri.

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So this was the right answer? I was just digging for something I remembered, not sure it its right-
Thrasops jacksonii?

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So this was the right answer? I was just digging for something I remembered, not sure it its right-
Thrasops jacksonii?

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No. This little guy is a 2012 model philodryas psammophidea.

Any pics of the parents handy?

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No. This little guy is a 2012 model philodryas psammophidea.

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I would have never got that, lol. But thanks for the education, I discovered lots of different colubrids I had never heard of while trying to figure yours out. :p

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Any pics of the parents handy?

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I have some horrible pictures of them. I'll post them up.