New Pick ups! Help? Serpents Lair!

Good day everyone got these three guys from Sarah Kafel out of Serpents Lair. Picked up the YellowBelly and Lesser last night. Sitting around the house this morning I knew I should have gotten that Het Red!! I text Sarah and within the hour she actually brought the snake to me! Fantastic customer service, prompt replies, and, very healthy animals!
We will definitely be doing business again soon. Thanks guys!

Here they are,

1.0 Lesser Platinum
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/harepu5e.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/u8u4y6yz.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/neqyra4e.jpg

1.0 YellowBelly
He looks almost like a vanilla (or fire)
He is a lot brighter than my other two YellowBellys and a lot of my pastels! What do you think? Here he is compared to our other male yellowbelly
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/tuta5apu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/ugaru3ud.jpg

Last, but not least our new
1.0 Het Red
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/u4yny9a5.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/da9abe4e.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/ytydy7ug.jpg
Gotta love those blushings :)!

Thanks for looking!

I really like that het reds blushing!!! They are all pretty though!!! Good pickups my friend!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Great blushing! That het Red's neck pattern is gorgeous and that yb is smokin'. Lesser Platty is stunning- great color!

You sure thats a lesser? Looks like a mojave to me great pickup s though.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by oskyle1567

You sure thats a lesser? Looks like a mojave to me great pickup s though.

---

+1 in seeing mojo as well

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by oskyle1567

You sure thats a lesser? Looks like a mojave to me great pickup s though.

---

+2 I see Mojave. Definitely no lesser...

Love the Het Red!

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

I thought it mojo too...

Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

I believe it's a mojo as well. It's darker than even the darkest lesser/butter I've seen :O.

not a lesser sorry its a mojo have one identical to yours lessers are way different than mojos

Bamn!! That sucks :/ I thought I finally had my lesser. I paid $125 for her, still a good deal? I should have known

Yeah I think it looks like a mojave rather then a lesser for sure....

Sounds ok for a mojo. Lessers/butters are more.

Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks everyone, the lady I got him from said she does not own any Mojo's and the parent pairing was a lesser x butter.

I dont think shes telling the truth hun. Thats definetly a mojo.


Lesser platinum
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/saby9u8e.jpg
Not my photo. Google search

Sent from my LS670 using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by PorcelainxDoll

I dont think shes telling the truth hun. Thats definetly a mojo.


Lesser platinum
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/saby9u8e.jpg
Not my photo. Google search

Sent from my LS670 using Tapatalk 2

---

Yeah I saw that photo on google too :/

It looks like a mojo to me too. That's exactly what I saw when I saw the pics earlier. Are you sure it's female? $125 is low even for a mojo male. :/

I got my mojo male for around that.

Sent from my LS670 using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

It looks like a mojo to me too. That's exactly what I saw when I saw the pics earlier. Are you sure it's female? $125 is low even for a mojo male. :/

---

Male

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mrl249

Bamn!! That sucks :/ I thought I finally had my lesser. I paid $125 for her, still a good deal? I should have known

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mrl249

Male

---

Nice pickups, but I agree: I'm not seeing any Lesser in that snake. I vote Mojo too.

Well I guess I take back my great review. "Sarah" doesn't know what she is talking about, and she does not respond to my text or calls.

:colbert:...bad sarah...that´s very unpolite...

And yes...another one for mojo.

Well this is what Sarah sent me a couple of days ago

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/ybyga3en.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/4eqatetu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/gy4are4e.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/uhygebe8.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/ujururyn.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/9u6ase5a.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/a7uhegyj.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/upa8ysu7.jpg

That is pretty weird. I believe her when she says its from butter/lesser parents...but damn that snake looks like a textbook mojave. I looked at it and said "awesome mojave!" Then I read the description calling it a lesser.

It really looks just like a mojave. I suppose it could be a very dark lesser or butter, but the pattern and colors just aren't right. I have all three of those morphs and they are all easily distinguishable.

It doesn't seem to me like she is trying to scam you or anything. That is a stunning animal regardless of what morph it actually is.

I wouldn't say that mojave lesser and butter are the same thing though. Side by side they are all very different in appearance and when combined with other genes they do much different things. Just look at a pastel lesser, pastel butter, and a pastel mojave. Very different! I would say mojave is the most distinguishable of the three due to its pattern and darker color.

Either way, I would be happy with that purchase!

Your "lesser" looks nothing like the ones she sent in the picture. I'd say mojave too. & most of that text sounded like she just pulled it out of somewhere... I couldn't quite make sense of what she was trying to get at there.

Thanks everyone

mojaves are NOT the same as butters/lessers... Though butters and lessers are typically considered different lines. Mojaves plus lessers/butters are "compatible" in that the super form are BEL's but a pastave and pastel lesser/butter aren't the same. are those pics of the parents that she sent?

I can't see how anyone could confuse a mojave and a lesser/butter. The patterns and coloring are completely different.


Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbean7916

mojaves are NOT the same as butters/lessers... Though butters and lessers are typically considered different lines. Mojaves plus lessers/butters are "compatible" in that the super form are BEL's but a pastave and pastel lesser/butter aren't the same. are those pics of the parents that she sent?

I can't see how anyone could confuse a mojave and a lesser/butter. The patterns and coloring are completely different.


Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

---

Yes. Supposedly those are the parents, she said give her a few minutes to take pictures of them and those two were what I got.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bLlOoVoEd

Your "lesser" looks nothing like the ones she sent in the picture. I'd say mojave too. & most of that text sounded like she just pulled it out of somewhere... I couldn't quite make sense of what she was trying to get at there.

---

I agree, she seemed a little nervous when we were talking about it in person as well.

Here is my baby lesser i got over the summer. Looks nothing like your snake, id definetly say you got a mojo. $125 isnt a bad price even though that isnt what you wanted.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/avu9e9et.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/u4ugade9.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mrl249

Yes. Supposedly those are the parents, she said give her a few minutes to take pictures of them and those two were what I got.

---

Those don't look breeding size to me :confused::confused:


Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

I just hate the fact of not knowing what I bought! I agree it is a stunning animal , but I didn't expect her to say, it "MAY" be a Lesser after the purchase was already made.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbean7916

those don't look breeding size to me :confused::confused:


Sent from my pc36100 using tapatalk 2

---

thats exactly what i said!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mike41793

Here is my baby lesser i got over the summer. Looks nothing like your snake, id definetly say you got a mojo. $125 isnt a bad price even though that isnt what you wanted.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/avu9e9et.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/u4ugade9.jpg

---

Nice Lesser Mike! I really like the back patterns!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jbean7916

Those don't look breeding size to me :confused::confused:


Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

---

Maybe old pictures?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mrl249

Nice Lesser Mike! I really like the back patterns!

---

Thanks alot! I picked her bc i thought she had alot of nice blushing. Im hoping her busier pattern mixes well to make some nice lesser cinni's for me haha :)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/04/aza3ydep.jpg

That is one of my mojave hatchlings for reference

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kaorte

Maybe old pictures?

---

She said to hold on so she could take pics though...

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Well me and my lady have been calling him the "molester" haha (ya know, Mojave and lesser ha)!

I wish I could show his colors of better cause he does have lesser colors on the side and certain spots on his body, I'll try and get some better pics today

Maybe it is some weird paradox?

There are only a couple scenarios.

1. The snake is a mojave and Sarah is lying to you

2. The snake is in fact from a lesser butter pairing and is just different looking.


Only way to find out would be to breed it.

I'd personally take it back and get your money back. It MIGHT have been permissible if it were still the gender you wanted, but a male? What did she say about the gender mix-up, did I miss that part? Sounds to me like she lied to you to pawn off something she couldn't sell to anyone else - male mojaves are not in high demand.

Nice collection:)