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Newbie Terms.

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  • 09-07-2012, 07:19 PM
    BWyant
    Newbie Terms.
    So, I hear these words thrown around quite a bit. Can someone define them for me (and the other newbies that may need to know). It's difficult to look at a snake and know exactly what is being described. A picture with arrows would be great? ;)

    Things like flames, blush, alien heads, ringer.... All that.

    If this has been done before, I apologize, just send me that direction.

    Thanks.
  • 09-07-2012, 07:28 PM
    Mike41793
    Challenge accepted. Hang tight...
  • 09-07-2012, 07:30 PM
    Xotik
    This post - Click-me is a post from here that has pictoral tutorials to some morphs. They are very interesting in their own right- and I'm pretty sure the answers to all of your questions are there, and much easier than me typing out what they are - cause there are pictures! And pictures are awesome. :P
  • 09-07-2012, 07:34 PM
    satomi325
    This is blushing: http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/hpastel4.jpg
    Where the bold colors fade (such as the black patterns on normals and pastels)

    Read this for ringers: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ds-and-Ringers



    The saddle patterns on BPs are called "alien heads" due to their obvious shape of looking like ET heads: http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/cincir.jpg


    This photo has blushing and flames: http://www.nextworldexotics.com/images/cinblflhd.jpg
    Green = blushing
    Dark purple = flames

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Black-Pastels
  • 09-07-2012, 07:45 PM
    Mike41793
    Ok here goes: (this is my male fire).
    Red arrow on the right is blushing. Red arrow on the left shows a headstamp or blushing on the head. Blue arrow is a ringer mark thats hard to see. Its looks kinda just like an orange stain on his stomach. Ringers show up randomnly and can vary a bit. Im not entirely sure what they are tbh.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/apugebyg.jpg

    These arrows are all pointing to alien heads. The top one actually looks like an alien head with two eyes and everything. Hence the namesake lol. Towards the end of his body the alien heads melt together into stretched out shapes.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/6eza9yda.jpg

    Lastly, flames. Flames basically mean like blushing coming up from the bottom up the sides. When i here flames, i think yellowbellies bc a good yellowbelly should have awesome flames. Id still consider what the red arrows are pointing to in this pic to be flames. Because its blushing coming up, or flaming up if you will, the sides of her. In some parts of her the flames go all the way around her body to create nice blushing.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/nyzesyqy.jpg

    If im wrong on any of these someone please correct me. These terms, imo at least, sorta have some give on them where you dont have to associate the word with something exactly. Like an alien head has to look like this or whatever. Hope this helps!
  • 09-07-2012, 08:19 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    This is my 100% het pied ringer:

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/ty6e5ynu.jpg

    Her white spot and discoloration is why she is called a ringer an not just a 100% het pied
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/edemabe6.jpg
  • 09-07-2012, 08:23 PM
    BWyant
    Re: Newbie Terms.
    Helpful, folks. Thanks.

    And liking the pictures. Gives ya'll an excuse to show off your snakies. ;)
  • 09-07-2012, 09:17 PM
    Tfpets
    Now, just to set my information straight, ringers have nothing to do with pied or het pied? Totally separate genetics? Perhaps a type of paradox?
  • 09-07-2012, 09:19 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    As far as I know, just because a Bp has a ringer does not mean it is het for pied.

    I've seen the parents of my girl, and the breeders are allowing me to come with her next year to breed with their pied male.
  • 09-07-2012, 09:23 PM
    BWyant
    Re: Newbie Terms.
    Anybody else want to show off one of their snakes with some of these traits. Just point an arrow towards the characteristic being described.

    Any other new folks want to use this opportunity to ask some related questions? I'm just using this opportunity to pick brains and learn.

    I really oughta' just buy a book.
  • 09-07-2012, 09:52 PM
    Tfpets
    A book could not possibly contain the amount info you can receive here! Plus, this is more fun!
  • 09-07-2012, 10:12 PM
    Mike41793
    Kevin's (NERD) book is pretty good!

    Just bc this IS fun here's something else. When the alien heads are circular, like in cinni's and black pastels theyre called donuts. Checkout my cinni girls donuts!
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/2y3uqe7y.jpg

    Also heres a shot of how alien heads can be more reduced and merge together and an example of partial striping. Both pics are of my fire boy again:
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/ajuge6u2.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/yna7ebam.jpg

    And heres another shot of where his ringer is. Tbh i cant even see it here in this indoor shot. He has alot of orangish belly scales but when outside theres one spot on where theyre really colored more. Idk any one have any thoughts on it?
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/08/dapysana.jpg
  • 09-07-2012, 10:37 PM
    Tfpets
    My female cinni seems to have a bit of a ringer. Her belly is mostly an off white color except for a big patch that is pure white. The pure white spot goes up the sides and has veins of white through her pattern almost to the top. Also has orange tinged scales around the white. I was going to get a pic of it but she is very blue right now and it really blurs it out. I will get a good pic after she sheds.
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