problem with male breeder.

I have a male pastel that is 2400 grams that i wanted to pair with one of my females. Before we acquired him he was a pet. So as far as im aware he has never been bred before. Well when i put him in with the female he kind of freaked out. He was throwing his body like he was trying to get out. I took him out and put him back in his tub and he was calm as can be. Does this mean he isn't going to breed? Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Are you sure the girls a girl?

Are you sure your "female" is actually a female?

Lol, Bobbafett beat me too it.

Hi,

How sure are you of the sex of the female?


dr del

ETA - double ninja'd :ninja:

Yes, we have had her proven to be a girl and the person i bought her from had her probed

I am inclined to think the "female" is a male, only times I have heard of them acting like that is when two males were in the same tub for breeding purposes. They don't like to sword fight I hear. LOL

I have had a few males do this when introduced with a female, I just let him calm down and try again in a few days.
But I do agree to make sure to check the females sex, even a probed female can be a male, probes can be used wrong...

lol my friends males were doing this too he freaked out and pulled them out too well come to find out the one he thought was female was male so he spent 2 years and $300 extra on a male lol

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Originally Posted by steph2011

Yes, we have had her proven to be a girl and the person i bought her from had her probed

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I never trust probing over popping

The person you got her from *had her probed? So the person you got the female from doesn't know how to sex snakes and had someone else do it? Unless that someone else is an actual breeder who has sexed many snakes and knows how to pop and probe correctly, I would not trust that it's actually a female..

You have no idea how many pet stores and new keepers think they know how to correctly sex a snake, including probing (both sides) without injuring the animal, but end up mis-sexing them.

Did this so-called female do any tail wagging when the male was put in there? If not, and considering the behaviour of the male, I'm inclined to think the other one is also male. I'd get them both re-sexed by someone who actually does this regularly.

How big is the other one in grams?

Im inclined too question whether ur male is a male..

If your planning on breeding, it is imperative that you learn how to pop and probe. When you are breeding animals, and possibly looking to sell them a second hand opinion on what sex the snake might be could really harm your reputation. I have heard so many stories of people buying a baby, raising it up, and 3 years later they find out "Gina" turned out to be "Gino".

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I have had a few males do this when introduced with a female, I just let him calm down and try again in a few days.
But I do agree to make sure to check the females sex, even a probed female can be a male, probes can be used wrong...

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X2. Happens occasionally, not sure why. If the male starts to bang around, I move him back to his tub and attempt again later. Also, X2 on learning to sex the snakes yourself and making sure.

I am the boyfriend and i have popped them both and they are a male and a female. Also we always have our snakes double checked by someone we know and trust who breeds.

I have never heard of this before we do appreciate the help and we will wait until a day after they eat and see if that helps. Thanks everyone.

Was he flopping around AWAY from the female, OR was he ON or UNDER the female while he was flopping around?
thanks
spooky

He wasn't really near the female when he was breaking out. But he is so big that he takes up alot of space. The female is 1400 grams. Thanks for all the help.

I have a male that will do this to females, but hees always on or under the female. Guess he just gets excited. If hees under the female it will almost put her in the air.
Spooky

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Originally Posted by Don

X2. Happens occasionally, not sure why. If the male starts to bang around, I move him back to his tub and attempt again later. Also, X2 on learning to sex the snakes yourself and making sure.

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X3 I had this happen last year with a male pastel. I thought WTH is all that banging and it was him flipping out, thumping his body, flipped the water dish. He settled down and locked pretty quickly after all the ruckous. Her clutch is hatching now so I am sure she was not a he.

Give the male a week and try again. Hopefully you don't have 2 males and the probing was correct. Only time will tell. Do you have another male to put with the female? She if the same thing happens.

i have a male that does this when introduced to a female, more when i put her in his cage than when i put him in hers. looks like he thinks he's in a mosh pit. he like bucks and nudges and tail whips like a crazy lizard. i just let them go, they're not made of glass. had there been some biting or more obvious signs of real "fighting" i would have separated. after an hour or so he quits and locks up. she went on to lay eggs and he was obviously the sire (didnt need to call maury). everyone is right though, never hurts to double check sexes. this snake had no name for 2 years. after witnessing his breeding habits we named him Ike.