From Balls to Bloods

Thinking about getting into bloods have always liked their colors and patterns but don't like their tempers. Wanted to know Wat kinda tub sizes will I need for these guys from hatchling to adult if newspaper bedding is acceptable and r their humidity requirements different from balls? Any other info would be great thanks

I have a Sumatran short tail (Black Blood) and a Sumatran T Positive albino and I really enjoy them and can't wait until they grow up into big chunky adult girlies. Right now I have each in a 28qt tub since they're smaller, but when they're full grown adults they'll be in 4' vivs (possibly 6' depending if they get larger than average). I have them on newspaper/paper towels without issues but I know people use other bedding to hold humidity better. I keep them at around the same humidity levels as my balls/other snakes and each have no problems shedding: though they can withstand higher levels of humidity.

As far as temper goes, my albino is a sweetheart. My short tail has gone through a striking/defensive "aggressive" stage but I've been working with her more and she's been doing wonderful. Have yet to have her strike at me again and she's been relaxing when being held. It depends on the snake: my advice if you're worried about temperaments is ask the breeder/seller how the snake is with them and perhaps start with a younger one.

My T+

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...uly2520129.jpg

My Black Blood

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...uly2420127.jpg

They are burrowers so crumpling extra sheets of newspaper will work fine. I have a female just over 4ft and around 12lbs. I ordered some large cages but her temp home is a 42x18x7 tub. I have to say it's a bit small. I have the warm side with a thick layer of mulch she burrows into and just crumpled newspaper on the cool side. IMO adults should be in a cage not a tub. I have read all different suggestions on what the humidity should be and keep mine between 55 and 65 and have not had any issues as of yet.

She is by far the sweetest snake I own. She is hissy when you first touch her but she never does any more than that. As soon as she is out she is a complete sweetheart. She will hang out with me as long as I let her. The only problem is she can get heavy around the neck after a while.

I have absolutely fallen in love with bloods by getting her and will have many more soon. I Love their heavy build and colorings.

They do take up a good amount of space as adults and when they go to the bathroom you will swear a baby elephant stopped by, no kidding.

If you check out bloodpythons.com they have some really good info there under their resources tab. Husbandry, temperament, just about anything you need info on you could find it.

Thanks I definitely love the red bloods and black bloods and I wanna get myself a female baby after much more research maybe by the November phoenix reptile show ill be ready for one thanks again and anymore info is greatly appreciated

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Thanks I definitely love the red bloods and black bloods and I wanna get myself a female baby after much more research maybe by the November phoenix reptile show ill be ready for one thanks again and anymore info is greatly appreciated

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Me and my bf went to that expo last year and am so planning on going again this year :gj: Good luck finding a little girl

If I can give any advice, but directly from a Blood/Short Tailed Python breeeder.

Sometimes you'll run into a "flipper" at shows with them

Temps 80-82

Humidity for me, I like about 70%

Paper is fine, aspen is fine, cypress, pretty much anything you'd use for my Balls.

I currently keep my lone brongersmai in a tub, but she will be upgraded to a 4ft cage in the not too far off future. I'm planning on using a RHP, and continuing to use cypress bedding for humidity. I like cypress for more humid species such as bloods and BRBs.

BUY CBB!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ter/002-18.jpg

CBB??? Captive Bred Born? Idk

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CBB??? Captive Bred Born? Idk

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Yes,Captive Born and Bred preferbly from the person that has produced the animal themselves.So in addition to the Blood or ST that you purchase you also receive the knowledge and a bit of the experience that has gone into producing/caring for the animal.

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Paper is fine, aspen is fine, cypress, pretty much anything you'd use for my Balls.

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hehehehe Ill use what ever you want babe! lol :P:D

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I have a Sumatran short tail (Black Blood) and a Sumatran T Positive albino and I really enjoy them and can't wait until they grow up into big chunky adult girlies. Right now I have each in a 28qt tub since they're smaller, but when they're full grown adults they'll be in 4' vivs (possibly 6' depending if they get larger than average). I have them on newspaper/paper towels without issues but I know people use other bedding to hold humidity better. I keep them at around the same humidity levels as my balls/other snakes and each have no problems shedding: though they can withstand higher levels of humidity.

As far as temper goes, my albino is a sweetheart. My short tail has gone through a striking/defensive "aggressive" stage but I've been working with her more and she's been doing wonderful. Have yet to have her strike at me again and she's been relaxing when being held. It depends on the snake: my advice if you're worried about temperaments is ask the breeder/seller how the snake is with them and perhaps start with a younger one.

My T+

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...uly2520129.jpg

My Black Blood

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...uly2420127.jpg

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That is a beautiful SSTP by he way!

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!!!

Nice catch, I didnt even realize it came out that way.

I think I had typed out something else and then deleted it and must have forgot that part! hahaha

Not a bad way to start the day haha.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...e/P1050773.jpg

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hehehehe Ill use what ever you want babe! lol :P:D

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We keep are over 6 1/2 foot long and 38 lb blood female in an ARS-9006 which has dimensions of 52" Wide X 33.5" Deep X 9" high. Our male breeders seem to do fine in ARS-8514 tubs that are 26.5" Wide X 33" Deep X 9" High. Our other breeder girl is in one of the 8514 tubs right now also, but she is ready to move up. We are looking at buying 2 more 9006 levels this year for her and a female Nicaraguan boa that seems to want a larger cage.

We tried the front opening vivs, but found that our bloods seem to deal better with being approached from the top than going in at their front.

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That is a beautiful SSTP by he way!

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Thanks :)

We keep adults in VE-175 racks from Animal Plastics, on either sani-chips or kraft paper, and they do great. Smaller animals go into smaller tubs, but essentially the same setup. Our snake rooms are calibrated to about 65% humidity, and heated to 80-82 degrees on average, and we have lots of happy critters! :)

Juvie
http://bloodpythons.com/cms/images/s...ing/juvie1.jpg

Subadult
http://bloodpythons.com/cms/images/s...ing/cb70-3.jpg

Adult
http://bloodpythons.com/cms/images/s...adultrack3.jpg

Couple of links that might help: Selecting a Blood Python & Captive Environment.

Good luck - they're a BUNCH of fun to keep! :D

i cant seem to find the bigger racks on animal plastics website the VE-175 idk maybe im not looking hard enough and thanks to everyone for all the replies

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Originally Posted by ahunt037

Thinking about getting into bloods have always liked their colors and patterns but don't like their tempers. Wanted to know Wat kinda tub sizes will I need for these guys from hatchling to adult if newspaper bedding is acceptable and r their humidity requirements different from balls? Any other info would be great thanks

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Dont be worried TOO much about the temperment if you buy a CBB. From what I understand, the "attitudes" came/comes from the wild caught. I have CBB's and I trust them more than my BP's.
Spooky

Nevermind i found the racks i wont need those for awhile right? and would my 28qt rack that i keep my BP's in be suitable enough for a Blood obviously until it got too big for the tub? and would it be ok to house bloods and BP's in the same rack?? thanks!

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HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!!!

Nice catch, I didnt even realize it came out that way.

I think I had typed out something else and then deleted it and must have forgot that part! hahaha

Not a bad way to start the day haha.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...e/P1050773.jpg

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thats a cool looking blood? what kind is it? and is there a World of Blood Pythons so i can learn all these morphs

Thats what we call a Normie haha

This is one among many I produced this year

This is why I along with Kevin earlier, and other Blood and Short Tailed Python breeders advocate buying CBB from the breeder.

Unfortunately there are a handful of people selling farmed animals that have practically zero chance of turning red.

Spend your money with the breeders who have put forth the effort and time to produce the nicest they can.

A good Blood only forum you can check out is

www.curtusforum.org

Trevor

YUP.:gj:

I keep my bloods in the following....

Hatchlings to Yearling... ARS 10-Series 21.5" x 9.5" x 3.5"

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t/IMG_9245.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t/IMG_9202.jpg


Yearling to Subadult... ARS 70-Series 33" x 17" x 5.25"

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t/IMG_9489.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...61799614_n.jpg


Adult Males... ARS 80-Series 33" x 26.25" x 6.5"

Same as female tub below just 2.5" shorter


Adult Females... ARS 85-Series 33" x 26.25" x 9"

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...pavmnt/002.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...t/IMG_8108.jpg


My blood room is also kept 80-82 degrees year round

I can't wait to work with bloods/short tails. A Sumatran short tail will be my first purchase when I get the ability to own more snakes. Preferable a chrome head.

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Nevermind i found the racks i wont need those for awhile right? and would my 28qt rack that i keep my BP's in be suitable enough for a Blood obviously until it got too big for the tub? and would it be ok to house bloods and BP's in the same rack?? thanks!

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I don't keep my two bloods in my 28 or 34qt rack with the balls simply because the hot spots are too hot for them IMO. I have them in a room that stays at ~80 degrees ambient so I don't even give them a hot spot. In my experience with my two they like a little cooler temps so I don't keep them as warm as my other pythons. They digest just fine in the ambient temp without a hot spot too.