Pipping ball python/ Umbilical Question - HELP!

It is our very first clutch of eggs ever, today they are 57 days old. One egg has pipped and the rest are cut. The one that has pipped is a beautiful little piebald, and he has been sticking his head out since last night - sometimes it comes out a bit more, but it always goes back. One thing that is different since yesterday is today his head is coming from under his umilibal chord - which previously we could not see at all. But now you can see that it goes right over top of him, I am not sure if he is wrapped up in there or what. Should I just leave it be?! Let it take it's course? Or should I be trying to find out if it is wrapped in the umbilical??!? I really don't want to harm the snake, as i said it is our first clutch ever, and it is a gorgeous little piebald! What steps should I take from here????

I personally would leave it unless he starts looking weak or Lethargic. Bothering him more could put him in a worse position. Just because he's gone under it doesn't mean it's tangled. Just try and let him be as much as possible. I've had babies take a few days to come out. Though once they start poking their heads out it usually takes about 24 hours for them to finish up and come out.


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Oh and congrats on the pied!


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Thanks! He's a curious little guy with lots of energy so I am sure you're right. He does have a little silver/blue circle on one of his eyes........ is that just some kind of eye cap that will come off or maybe partially blind??

I've seen others post about that on the corn snake forums. It's believed to just be a calcium deposit and there's have always come off with the first shed. I wouldn't worry about it unless it's still there after the baby sheds

Yep I'd wait till after the shed to worry about that. Even still If it is a defect in the eye they can thrive without eyes much less just down one.


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I hate being a newbie and having all of these questions! But... is it normal that every 20-30 seconds it looks like it is taking in a very large breath? I of course have no idea what the body motions are (if any) if it is just absorbing the rest of its yolk..... or if they are big breathes, and if so if that is normal? :confusd: Thanks again for all the help! Everyone is new sometime!

Can you get a video? I've never seen babies take big gulps. I've seen them breathe hard when I'm around but no gulping. Is it more like gulping or the hey you're freaking me out deep breathing?


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uhmm i really don't know its body inflates and deflates, as if its taking a huge breathe. its mouth doesn't open or anything if that's what you mean by gulp. I can't take a video at the moment but could get my other half to when he's home. The little guy is still kind of active so I'm not going to worry for now!

Ohh ok no open mouth gulp. That what I thought you were taking about. The hard breathing is normal when you're standing over them. Just try and give him some space.


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uhmm i really don't know its body inflates and deflates, as if its taking a huge breathe. its mouth doesn't open or anything if that's what you mean by gulp. I can't take a video at the moment but could get my other half to when he's home. The little guy is still kind of active so I'm not going to worry for now!

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Yeah, the gulps are pretty normal. I was just watching my pastel het pieds pipping this weekend, and they all went through a pretty pronounced heavy breathing stage while still in the egg.

Is he still in the egg? A picture of the umbilicus over his head would be helpful. I wouldn't panic unless everyone is out of the egg tomorrow and he's still in there. If he doesn't exit within 6 hours of the last sibling, then yeah, I'd pull him out and have a look.

Yea i've been trying!!! Stupid picture window on the hovabator makes it a weeeee bit difficult, but the kids keep me busy for most of the day so I really dont look THAT much lol. He's still in the egg, its been almost two days with his head peeking out, at a couple times I thought he was about to crawl into the other piebalds egg, silly guy. Another piebald and a normal looking fella have poked their heads out in the meantime......

jeeze, i thought waiting for the eggs to pip would be the hard part. waiting for them to emerge is killer!

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Speaking of the Hovabator.... we noticed at one point the metal wire inside that heats up the hovabator, was hot enough that it burnt my arm. Is it safe to assume that because of this, once a snake emerges fully from the egg we should remove it right away? Or would they be safe inside of the hovabator?

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Yeah, the gulps are pretty normal. I was just watching my pastel het pieds pipping this weekend, and they all went through a pretty pronounced heavy breathing stage while still in the egg.

Is he still in the egg? A picture of the umbilicus over his head would be helpful. I wouldn't panic unless everyone is out of the egg tomorrow and he's still in there. If he doesn't exit within 6 hours of the last sibling, then yeah, I'd pull him out and have a look.

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He is no longer under his umbilicus :) I have no idea where it went to actually. Hopefully he will be coming out soon! I cant see any veins on the inside of the egg anymore either...... Im so excited, and so nervous. I definately wish I had more experience with this first clutch having these two beautiful piebalds. But quite frankly we weren't completely expecting the eggs. I just bought the pair of het. pieds a week before she laid, because the owner thought they were no good for breeding but her build and the way she was clumping I knew he had to be wrong!! He should of waited a little longer I guess!

Hi,

If you can't find someway of stopping him coming into contact with that hot wire then yes I would remove them as soon as they leave the egg.


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100% agree. I take babies or anyways after they've left the egg. He sounds like he's doing alright. I don't think you have anything to worry about.


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You are right :) He/she is great! And fully out of the egg, not sexed yet though. The white on it is so white it almost looks pink, or blue, depending on the lighting! A pretty little thing though, i'll get pictures soon!

SURPRISE! We are absolutely thrilled about the outcome of our first clutch! Great odds! Our lovely pair of het. peids gave us 3 beautiful baby piebalds! And 2 more gorgeous snakes as well. I actually really like the pied that has only the tiny bit of piebald pattern showing near his tail, ahhhhh they're all so perfect! Thanks for all the help everyone!:D:D:Dhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...11985920_o.jpg

Hi,

That's actually two pied and a normal with a "ringer" - the pied gene would have changed the rest of the body pattern too. :)

But it is still great odds and a crackign looking clutch. :salute:


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Hi,

That's actually two pied and a normal with a "ringer" - the pied gene would have changed the rest of the body pattern too. :)

But it is still great odds and a crackign looking clutch. :salute:


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Yea I just learned that this morning :( But he's still so pretty! So it's all good :D I'm very happy with our first clutch !

I love that little ringers pattern! Nice clutch

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