this annoys me (animal planet content)

Was browsing animal planets' website and stumbled across this. smh


http://animal.discovery.com/games-quizzes/pet-python/

I love how theres a ball python on the main page.

Animal planet sucks!

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question 1 is terrible. There is no option for NONE of THE Above!!

This really grinds my gears!!

what I meant by it, is I don't know anyone.

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http://www.patrickjkiger.com/

the guy that made the questions, and 100% accuracy....:colbert:

Wow, what a bunch of bull! Like, I'm steamed enough to send hate mail, which I normally don't even waste my time with. This is the STUPIDEST thing I think I've seen. Really, a BP on the main page? :rolleyes: Obviously these idiots have never handled, or seen really, one of these "brutal killers". :colbert: How is it possible for them to go from Steve Irwin's love the reptiles show to the CRAP they've been airing and pushing?? The misinformation they are giving people is ridiculous! I love the true/false question "Have pythons been known to kill their owner?" Wow, in THAT case, maybe they should also place a disclaimer on the "own a dog" and "own a horse" quizzes too since they kill by FAR more owners than snakes ever have or will. :rage:

Animal Indoctrination Channel, you know their in bed with the humane society!

While I agree that Animal Planet airs a LOT of bulls**t that's mostly fear propaganda, we also can't use "well, dogs/horses kill more people than snakes", because WAY more people own dogs and horses than people who own snakes. It's just not a valid point to make, and it doesn't make us look good.

We need to make valid points about SNAKES. Have snakes been known to kill people? Yes, it's happened. We can't ignore that, no matter how small the percentage. But the circumstances are usually stemmed from some aspect of poor keeping. We need to illustrate well-known keepers who properly house, feed, and care for their reptiles, and raise awareness that (just like dogs) there are no "bad" or "evil" snakes, just bad ownership. If we can keep showing our hobby and passion in a positive light, instead of lowering ourselves to name-calling and finger-pointing at all our naysayers, we can be the bigger people and others will look at us and go "okay, so they're handling this maturely and they seem very sure and factual". Some people will become more people, and they will start going "hey, what are you talking about?" when others start spewing those Animal Planet/PETA nonsense.

The power of word-of-mouth has an amazing impact, and it's our best weapon against the fear propaganda that's out there.

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

While I agree that Animal Planet airs a LOT of bulls**t that's mostly fear propaganda, we also can't use "well, dogs/horses kill more people than snakes", because WAY more people own dogs and horses than people who own snakes. It's just not a valid point to make, and it doesn't make us look good.

We need to make valid points about SNAKES. Have snakes been known to kill people? Yes, it's happened. We can't ignore that, no matter how small the percentage. But the circumstances are usually stemmed from some aspect of poor keeping. We need to illustrate well-known keepers who properly house, feed, and care for their reptiles, and raise awareness that (just like dogs) there are no "bad" or "evil" snakes, just bad ownership. If we can keep showing our hobby and passion in a positive light, instead of lowering ourselves to name-calling and finger-pointing at all our naysayers, we can be the bigger people and others will look at us and go "okay, so they're handling this maturely and they seem very sure and factual". Some people will become more people, and they will start going "hey, what are you talking about?" when others start spewing those Animal Planet/PETA nonsense.

The power of word-of-mouth has an amazing impact, and it's our best weapon against the fear propaganda that's out there.

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Nice, that's what I always say, social networking is going to bring things to light that have always been in the dark.

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While I agree that Animal Planet airs a LOT of bulls**t that's mostly fear propaganda, we also can't use "well, dogs/horses kill more people than snakes", because WAY more people own dogs and horses than people who own snakes. It's just not a valid point to make, and it doesn't make us look good.

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random googling shows 9.3 mil horses in 2008
another random googling from a forum post in 2008 puts captive snakes at 7.3 mil
HSUS says there are 78.2 dogs in the usa


so if the numbers are close to the truth, random googling shows 20 horse deaths per year, 31 dog deaths a year, and constrictor snakes at 1 every other year.

so now if we could just find actual sources for any of the numbers I just threw out.... I think there's a pretty strong case

using those numbers your 5 times more likely to be killed by a dog and 31 times more likely to be killed by a horse

Watch out for those 30,000 plus escaped pets!

First time horseback riding the other day and one of the people I was with fell off the horse and got his foot stuck in the stirrup and dragged around as the horse went nuts and started flailing him around like a rag doll with it's hooves stomping right by his head. Luckily he only ended up with a sprained ankle but after that experience I realized how dangerous horses can be. I can't wait to go again though horses are a lot of fun!

I wouldn't have such an issue with this "quiz" if it specified giant pythons, and didn't use a freaking ball python picture. Yes, giant pythons can be dangerous, and they should be thoroughly researched and eased in to. (Every species should be, just to make sure it gets the care it requires) yes, giant pythons have killed their owners or handlers. Most cases being the fault of the owners based on poor husbandry or down right neglect. Grouping all python species into a "killer quiz" is just asinine. Pits are the top dog on the llist for deaths from dogs, so I guess I should make a quiz about how deadly canines are and have a picture of a Chihuahua as the cover. /eyeroll
I used to love watching animal planet...since they turned their new leaf and went "surprisingly human" I can't stand to watch it at all. Surprisingly close minded, and ill informed.

I cant see the questions on my phone :(

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Originally Posted by RoseyReps

I used to love watching animal planet...since they turned their new leaf and went "surprisingly human" I can't stand to watch it at all. Surprisingly close minded, and ill informed.

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Yup. I miss the good ole days when AP actually liked animals. AP died when Steve Irwin died, I think. Now it is just fear mongering shows and the like.

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Originally Posted by AK907

Yup. I miss the good ole days when AP actually liked animals. AP died when Steve Irwin died, I think. Now it is just fear mongering shows and the like.

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Totally. I miss Steve Irwin, loved watching him. "Look at this little beauty right here". I still remember the day he died. I think him dying has stuck out more to me than any other celebrity that has passed between then and now. I feel sad too, for his kids, especially Bindi who he was so close too. Could you imagine what the two of them would be doing now if he were still alive? What a loss for her. :( Nope, no more good shows there. Btw, I also couldn't see questions from my phone.

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Steve Irwin always talked about how beautiful and uniqe each type of animal he was talking about. He taught us not to be scared but to respect the more dangerous ones. Hed educate us about them not to fear or hate them...

All these show now do is try to install fear into its watchers about exotics.

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It"s pretty bad, but in a way I'd rather have them discouraging the stupid people who decide on getting snakes based on their web page (:confusd:) than urging them to get one. Smart people do research and join this forum prior to getting a python.:)

It won't even let me take the quiz??

"python" is such a vague word.
People who use the word python to cover all pythons have NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Retics and burms are pythons that are potentially harmful, ball pythons..HARMLESS. People who don't know the different species of pythons infuriate me. :rage:

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Originally Posted by Gpoop

Was browsing animal planets' website and stumbled across this. smh


http://animal.discovery.com/games-quizzes/pet-python/

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"We know, we know. You just won't feel complete unless you share your home with a giant carnivorous snake."

Welp...they got me dead to rights, there, gotta admit.

I just love having ginormous, vicious, killer snakes.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go tease my Dobermann until he rips my throat out.

[Friday nights do tend to be a bit boring, here]

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It won't even let me take the quiz??

"python" is such a vague word.
People who use the word python to cover all pythons have NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Retics and burms are pythons that are potentially harmful, ball pythons..HARMLESS. People who don't know the different species of pythons infuriate me. :rage:

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Or so the Ball Pythons would have you believe.

http://file.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/bpfangs.jpg


:O

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

While I agree that Animal Planet airs a LOT of bulls**t that's mostly fear propaganda, we also can't use "well, dogs/horses kill more people than snakes", because WAY more people own dogs and horses than people who own snakes. It's just not a valid point to make, and it doesn't make us look good.

We need to make valid points about SNAKES. Have snakes been known to kill people? Yes, it's happened. We can't ignore that, no matter how small the percentage. But the circumstances are usually stemmed from some aspect of poor keeping. We need to illustrate well-known keepers who properly house, feed, and care for their reptiles, and raise awareness that (just like dogs) there are no "bad" or "evil" snakes, just bad ownership. If we can keep showing our hobby and passion in a positive light, instead of lowering ourselves to name-calling and finger-pointing at all our naysayers, we can be the bigger people and others will look at us and go "okay, so they're handling this maturely and they seem very sure and factual". Some people will become more people, and they will start going "hey, what are you talking about?" when others start spewing those Animal Planet/PETA nonsense.

The power of word-of-mouth has an amazing impact, and it's our best weapon against the fear propaganda that's out there.

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As of 2011 statistics, you're 25 times more likely (correlatively speaking, like AP) to be killed by a dog than a constricting snake. 25 times.

I never want to put another animal hobby under the bus either, when it comes to our reptile rights. But I'm not above using the same "dirty tactics" HSUS and PETA use to make a point.

I use that statistic in a speech I presented. I made the claim and then added the disclaimer that "Now, you may think that your dog would never attack anyone let alone you, and you're probably right. But neither would my reptiles". I went on to make the point that keeping reptiles is just like owning a dog, I get the same personal enjoyment anyone else does. :)


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I've talked to "big country" from Swamp Wars before in person. Even having a large burm or retic in your house is like having a loaded gun in your house..it takes responsibility. 99% of bad snake accidents have come from irresponsible owners.

The title pretty much says it all. Animal Planet? Annoying a responsible pet owner? Who'd have thunk. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dyna Bob

This really grinds my gears!!

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ha!

http://singitdontsayit.files.wordpre.../02/gears2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

As of 2011 statistics, you're 25 times more likely (correlatively speaking, like AP) to be killed by a dog than a constricting snake. 25 times.

I never want to put another animal hobby under the bus either, when it comes to our reptile rights. But I'm not above using the same "dirty tactics" HSUS and PETA use to make a point.

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By any chance do you have a source of that?

and dogs arn't going away, most people love them, a good chunk of people own them, you're not putting their pets in danger with stats.

wow all the answers are the worst choices possible. so theyre trying to sway people from not getting a python. its always how snakes kill their owner. ive never heard that in my life! the question about how to snake will find you in a darkened room pisses me off!who the hell lets a snake loose in their house!? Patrick J. Kiger is an idiot

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I cant see the questions on my phone :(

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Count yourself lucky then. I think things like this quiz actually kill brain cells.

Watching animal planet is like going to petco! You know it's going to piss you off, but you just gotta see it sometimes!
On several occasions I have had a snake and one of my dogs with me in a public setting. It's funny how many people will run up on my dog and pet it and will shriek in fear of the snake. I always tell them that my chihuahua they are petting is way more dangerous than the snake! It's funny how fast they will back away from the dog!

What I meant by more people own dogs/horses is that pretty much every other house in your neighborhood's most likely going to have some breed of dog. I highly doubt any of them have snakes, and if they do, it's a little cornsnake or ball python that they got for one of their kids or something. Growing up, I only knew ONE person that had any type of snake, and it was a Cali King. Thus, I believe that instead of trying to fight fire with fire (in this case, pointing out that dogs have a higher human injury/death count, because frankly nobody will give a damn since they're "normal" pets that most people have), we need to educate people on proper handling and the risks that happen when you don't correctly care for your animals.

One thing I ALWAYS tell those other end of the spectrum people (the ones that think everything will "bond" with you and be your best friend) is that you only need to underestimate a large constrictor ONCE. One time is all they need to put you in a world of hurt. If you can't practice caution and be alert to possible problems or certain behaviors, then by no means should you even consider getting anything large. You will only hurt our hobby even more because you will be another blown-out-of-proportion news story about how some "innocent person" was "brutally and maliciously attacked for no reason by a bloodthirsty killer snake". More like "idiot keeper didn't feed their large python correct prey/didn't feed them often enough, and in hunger their snake tried for anything".



The only show I like on Animal Planet is "Tanked". Then again, you can't really have any negative things to say about fish...

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"In 2009, the South Florida Water Management District estimated between 5,000 to 180,000 Burmese pythons were living in South Florida."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ed-quickly.jpg

It's funny that you would mention tanked! I keep reef aquariums, live rock, coral all that kinda stuff. In the reefing world that show is a joke! Do you realize how many fish and how much coral they are killing when they throw all of that junk together and then add the livestock! It takes months to properly cycle a tank! Tons of patience, testing and knowledge! I guarantee you that 99% of the livestock you see in the show is dead in a few days! Just more misinformation for your entertainment!

You know, we have seen that show and have had tanks in the past. Hubby and I are going, um, shouldn't they be cycling those tanks....

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I honestly just like their tank ideas... xD I'm not a big fish person. It makes sense though that you would have to establish some sort of environment before putting all the fish in. But there have been multiple times where I heard them talking about doing that, so isn't it possible that the producers just cut all that "boring stuff" out to make it seem more exciting?

Well Animal Planet, thought you had at least one redeeming show... Guess not! :rolleyes:

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It's funny that you would mention tanked! I keep reef aquariums, live rock, coral all that kinda stuff. In the reefing world that show is a joke! Do you realize how many fish and how much coral they are killing when they throw all of that junk together and then add the livestock! It takes months to properly cycle a tank! Tons of patience, testing and knowledge! I guarantee you that 99% of the livestock you see in the show is dead in a few days! Just more misinformation for your entertainment!

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Well at least it's not JUST the reptile people that they're pissing off.

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Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll

wow all the answers are the worst choices possible. so theyre trying to sway people from not getting a python. its always how snakes kill their owner. ive never heard that in my life! the question about how to snake will find you in a darkened room pisses me off!who the hell lets a snake loose in their house!? Patrick J. Kiger is an idiot

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How would you like to spend 37 years having this shoved down your throat?

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/...c337b892_o.jpg

[and not a single person ever actually watched the freaking movie even though it's a really good flick]

Face it.
The world is full of wimps.

all of those questions are ridiculous.

Here is my quiz:

So You want children..

Q1. Children can die in their early years.

a. True
b. False

Q2. Children have been known to grow up into murderers, rapists, and politicians.

a. True
b. False

Q3. Children have been known to cost millions of dollars.

a. True
b. Flase

Q4. There is a chance your child will be abducted.

a. True
b. False

Q5. Children can burn down your home.

a. True
b. False

Q6. Children can grow to be in excess of 1000 lbs within their life time.

a. True
b. False

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all of those questions are ridiculous.

Here is my quiz:

So You want children..

Q1. Children can die in their early years.

a. True
b. False

Q2. Children have been known to grow up into murderers, rapists, and politicians.

a. True
b. False

Q3. Children have been known to cost millions of dollars.

a. True
b. Flase

Q4. There is a chance your child will be abducted.

a. True
b. False

Q5. Children can burn down your home.

a. True
b. False

Q6. Children can grow to be in excess of 1000 lbs within their life time.

a. True
b. False

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lol politicians

Woot! I got 100%!!! :banana:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7...4204a59a6e.jpg

Can I has python now?

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

What I meant by more people own dogs/horses is that pretty much every other house in your neighborhood's most likely going to have some breed of dog. I highly doubt any of them have snakes, and if they do, it's a little cornsnake or ball python that they got for one of their kids or something. Growing up, I only knew ONE person that had any type of snake, and it was a Cali King. Thus, I believe that instead of trying to fight fire with fire (in this case, pointing out that dogs have a higher human injury/death count, because frankly nobody will give a damn since they're "normal" pets that most people have), we need to educate people on proper handling and the risks that happen when you don't correctly care for your animals.

One thing I ALWAYS tell those other end of the spectrum people (the ones that think everything will "bond" with you and be your best friend) is that you only need to underestimate a large constrictor ONCE. One time is all they need to put you in a world of hurt. If you can't practice caution and be alert to possible problems or certain behaviors, then by no means should you even consider getting anything large. You will only hurt our hobby even more because you will be another blown-out-of-proportion news story about how some "innocent person" was "brutally and maliciously attacked for no reason by a bloodthirsty killer snake". More like "idiot keeper didn't feed their large python correct prey/didn't feed them often enough, and in hunger their snake tried for anything".



The only show I like on Animal Planet is "Tanked". Then again, you can't really have any negative things to say about fish...

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"In 2009, the South Florida Water Management District estimated between 5,000 to 180,000 Burmese pythons were living in South Florida."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ed-quickly.jpg

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haha i just picked the most dramatic answer for all the questions and got almost every answer right! bunch of bologna!

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Originally Posted by Tfpets

It's funny that you would mention tanked! I keep reef aquariums, live rock, coral all that kinda stuff. In the reefing world that show is a joke! Do you realize how many fish and how much coral they are killing when they throw all of that junk together and then add the livestock! It takes months to properly cycle a tank! Tons of patience, testing and knowledge! I guarantee you that 99% of the livestock you see in the show is dead in a few days! Just more misinformation for your entertainment!

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Never seen the show, but I used to work for a large aquarium installation and maintenance company in the mid-west, and was a reef keeper myself. Even the damn pet stores that sell the fish often are clueless as to proper care. Not much different than the reptile industry I guess. Misinformation is everywhere.

I did this research once to compare the actual data. Here is some actual math for the number people:

There are about 30 to 35 fatal dog attacks in the USA annually. Each year, more than 350,000 dog bite victims are seen in emergency rooms, and approximately 850,000 victims receive some form of medical attention. Based on data collected in the USA between 2001 and 2003, the CDC concluded that there were 4.5 million dog bite victims per year, but that figure appears to be rising.
Source: Dog bite statistics

Compare to reptile fatalities:

According to the Animal Protection Institute (API) website and various news sources, 19 people were killed by captive reptiles in the USA between 1995 and 2008, which is just one and a half death per year (for all captive reptiles, of any sort).
None of these deaths were caused by reptiles at large. Instead, all victims were either individuals voluntarily on the property where the animals were kept, or were the owners themselves at their own homes. No members of the public have been killed by captive reptiles in USA since 1995. Some of these deaths were from salmonella poisoning.
Two deaths resulting from the venomous snake bites occurred during voluntary serpent handling religious services in the church, while the remaining 7 involved the owners at their own home at their own risk and discretion.
Two of the deaths caused by large constrictors occurred to the children of the snake owners, at their own home, resulting in the parents being rightfully charged with child endangerment, some also with reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter. The remaining five fatalities were owners themselves, whom have accepted and know extremely well the potential risk of their hobby.
Source: Breakdown on reptile related fatalities in USA - Experts Forum at VenomousReptiles.org

Now let's crunch the numbers.

There are 45.6 Million homes with dogs in the US. These account for 30 to 35 deaths annually.
There are Reptile 4.7 Million homes with captive reptiles in the US. These account for 1.5 deaths annually
Source: Python Attack Raises Safety Concerns about Housing Exotic Pets | Poynter.

If you account for the inflated number of homes with dogs, it would seem that a person would be 10 times more likely to be killed and/or maimed by a dog than a reptile if each were equally dangerous. What we find is that when you compensate for the numbers, you are actually more than twice as likely to be killed by a pet dog as you are by a pet reptile. I could not easily find statistics for hospitalizations and other injuries resulting from captive reptile attacks.

To sum up, the world would statistically be a much safer place if everyone traded their domesticated pet dogs for some exotic pet reptiles.

Bees actually kill more people annually in the US than any other animal. Ban all the beehives!

Editing to add resource links:

http://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-stati...tatistics.html

http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/33914

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/a...g-exotic-pets/

Wow, all of those questions, for any of the animals, are so stupid! Can you keep a bison in your garage, yes, but it wouldn't be a good idea.....

I'd just like to say that Water is one of the top 5 killers in the world claiming the lives of 3533 people annually . . . Sure, it's good to bath in. Fun for swimming. And we have so much clean water that we use it to deficate in (Sorry Africa). But I feel the need to push a ban on water. Who's with me??

Source:
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreation...factsheet.html

One thing I know about statistics is that you can make them say anything you want to match your agenda. A pro-dog person could easily manipulate those exact same figures to paint a different picture.

The biggest issue I have with this sort of analysis is that you just can't compare reptiles and dogs. A dog is smart, and shows affection toward its owner (not all but you get the idea), despite what some people think, your snake isn't going to come when you call it and sit on your lap :D It's apples and oranges.

Bottom line, is my ball python dangerous, no. Is your yorkshire terrier going to rip out your neighbors throat, no. Would a 20ft burm be a bad idea to let roam your house, uh yeah. But a dingo kept as a pet would be just as bad (especially since they like to eat babies)!

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Bottom line, is my ball python dangerous, no. Is your yorkshire terrier going to rip out your neighbors throat, YES. Would a 20ft burm be a bad idea to let roam your house, uh yeah. But a dingo kept as a pet would be just as bad (especially since they like to eat babies)!

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Sorry, my wife owned a yorkie until recently (died of old age). I had to fix that statement! :D :rofl:
Oh, and a dingo ate my baby!