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  • 08-16-2012, 03:05 AM
    sookieball
    Day 50 I think I may have to.
    Sunday is day 50 for my saffy's clutch

    But they haven't dimpled.
    They are still active and look great.
    But no dimple? Humidity is over 92%
    And they've been at 89-90 the entire time...

    Its killing me to make sure they're OK.
    I know they are but.. ya know!?
    Should I cut on day 52 or wait till 55 and hope for dimple-age?
    Or should I just wait and let them be?

    Its my most anticipated clutch ever!

    (Well its my second clutch ever but I have always wanted a BEL)




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  • 08-16-2012, 03:48 AM
    SquamishSerpents
    Mine usually start to dimple between 37-40 days, but who knows! I only cut my eggs if I think something may be wrong. Even then, I wait til around day 55.

    So needless to say, if they were my eggs, I would wait.
  • 08-16-2012, 05:12 AM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Just be patient. You don't want to risk anything by rushing things. :)
  • 08-16-2012, 05:39 AM
    sookieball
    OMG I KNOW YOUR RIGHT!

    I know I need to be patient.
    OK. I'll give them till 55 and on 56 if no dimples,
    I'm going in.

    Would you still advise me not too?
    I'm so torn!

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  • 08-16-2012, 07:00 AM
    Helix
    I just had the same "problem" with my first clutch. They went full term and never dimpled even a bit. The babies pipped on day 58 and then I cut the rest of the clutch.
  • 08-16-2012, 11:39 AM
    mykee
    Re: Day 50 I think I may have to.
    I have clutches in my incubator right now that have not dimpled beside clutches that have dimpled.
    Not all clutches dimple.
    It's no indication of either good or bad eggs.
    Just different.
    Incubating at 88-89 degrees should have pippers around 54-55 days.
  • 08-16-2012, 12:24 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Just say noooo to day 50 cutting if they aren't dimpled in especially...:P
    Good luck!
  • 08-16-2012, 12:35 PM
    LeviBP
    My clutch this year started pipping out on Day 51, which I thought was super early - but they are nice big babies and everything seems fine!

    I would just let them go; sometimes my eggs don't dimple and before you know it a little head is popping out anyways.

    Best of luck on your BEL!
  • 08-16-2012, 01:22 PM
    SquamishSerpents
    Wow, eggs with no dimpling?? Weird! I've never had that happen. But I haven't hatched that many clutches of BPs, that's for sure.

    Either way, whatever you decide to do good luck with your babies, and be sure to post photos when they have emerged!
  • 08-16-2012, 04:58 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    I actually prefer it when the eggs don't dimple--they usually hatch out big, healthy, robust babies. I've had some losses this year from clutches that sank too early and left the hatchlings without enough room to develop, and I just couldn't get them to plump back up. Bad year for that.
  • 08-16-2012, 07:07 PM
    sookieball
    OK thanks everyone!
    I'll chill.
    Not gone a cut till day 55 if I don't seem to be able to control myself. :D
    I'm sure they are fine but I just am so worried and I know over nothing :rolleyes:

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  • 08-16-2012, 08:04 PM
    Jumbie
    I have not experienced this problem as of yet so know real helpful advice from me! I hope t all works out for you and I know the anticipation must be killing you man!!! Good luck!
  • 08-16-2012, 08:22 PM
    Homegrownscales
    I don't cut until one or two pip on their own. Id let them be until that happens.
    Then all systems go!


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  • 08-16-2012, 08:22 PM
    spankege
    Keep us posted! We want pictures!
  • 08-16-2012, 08:26 PM
    John1982
    I've only hatched 3 BP clutches but mine don't dimple at all, just start pipping from their fully inflated looking eggs.
  • 08-17-2012, 09:47 PM
    spankege
    Pictures?
  • 08-17-2012, 10:40 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spankege View Post
    Pictures?

    Well I'll update when they hatch out next week but its only 2 eggs and I now know without a doubt,


    I HAVE MY BEL!!!
    hope its a male but if its a female I'll be just as happy!

    Here's momma Saffy!
    http://img.tapatalk.com/ad3343ab-ffe6-2a59.jpg

    And daddy butter Gimme,
    http://img.tapatalk.com/ad3343ab-007e-7c1e.jpg

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  • 08-17-2012, 10:50 PM
    SquamishSerpents
    How do you know without a doubt if it hasn't hatched yet?
  • 08-17-2012, 11:42 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    How do you know without a doubt if it hasn't hatched yet?

    Because one egg has very obvious pattern. And the other is transparent pink with an outline of the body.
    Also there's a clear window type deal going on the side of the BEL egg
    And shine the light on it and I can see the snake and its completely white. It moves and I can see it!
    Its amazing to see! I'll try to get a video before it hatches so you can try to see the baby in the egg but I feel I have bothered them too much for the past couple days so I'll do it Monday

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  • 08-17-2012, 11:46 PM
    snakesRkewl
    I was just going to ask if you had candled them, we saw BEL's, Ivory's and bee's in the egg last year well before cutting.

    Congrats!
  • 08-18-2012, 04:33 AM
    SquamishSerpents
    Yeah I've ID'd spiders and albinos before, was just wondering if candling was your method, too!
  • 08-18-2012, 04:48 AM
    Sama
    Good luck and Gratz!
  • 08-18-2012, 08:28 AM
    DreamMaster
    iam on day 64 and nothing.. I vill cut when the first one pip i think :confusd:
  • 08-18-2012, 06:22 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    Yeah I've ID'd spiders and albinos before, was just wondering if candling was your method, too!

    Yup. That's how I roll,

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  • 08-19-2012, 03:00 PM
    don15681
    Re: Day 50 I think I may have to.
    I would cut on day 55 at that temp. eggs under that pressure, with no dimpling means no air pocket inside that egg. yes they can and usually will pip by themselves. but why risk it, day 55 they are full termed, I just cut one egg that was like that and I couldn't even pinch it. when I made the cut a lot of fluid came out, which is what I wanted. you don't have to make a big opening in the egg. just so you know that there's a slight air pocket and the hatchling can get out safely. good luck don
  • 08-19-2012, 03:09 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by don15681 View Post
    I would cut on day 55 at that temp. eggs under that pressure, with no dimpling means no air pocket inside that egg. yes they can and usually will pip by themselves. but why risk it, day 55 they are full termed, I just cut one egg that was like that and I couldn't even pinch it. when I made the cut a lot of fluid came out, which is what I wanted. you don't have to make a big opening in the egg. just so you know that there's a slight air pocket and the hatchling can get out safely. good luck don

    Should I cut an air pocket now or on day 55?

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  • 08-19-2012, 05:49 PM
    don15681
    Re: Day 50 I think I may have to.
    I would cut day 54 , 55 not much sooner, candle the egg to see where the best spot to cut on top. trying to miss the larger veins. if you get some blood, don't worry the hatchling will be ok. try not to go in too deep. make sure that the tub isn't air tight. they will be needing air. the humidity at this point isn't as important. good luck with the clutch and keep us updated, don

    - - - Updated - - -

    little air hole not wide open tub! :gj:
  • 08-19-2012, 06:19 PM
    sookieball
    Oh for sure.
    I know how to cut them open
    Thanks! I'll post pictures once they're out!

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  • 08-19-2012, 08:47 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    As long as you keep an eye on them, keep them wet, and keep them clean day 52 is fine. If you can't keep an eye on them and check them at least once a day I'd wait a few more days.
  • 08-19-2012, 11:25 PM
    sookieball
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    As long as you keep an eye on them, keep them wet, and keep them clean day 52 is fine. If you can't keep an eye on them and check them at least once a day I'd wait a few more days.

    Oh I sure can keep a close eye on them.
    The veins are coming to the thinning out phase. All the blood is going and staying in the baby's more
    I think by day 55 they may pip on their own.
    But that's more wishful thinking than anything. ;)



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