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Can anyone tell by the pictures how big the mice I feed them should be? The previous owner says they won't take rats. Should I try to feed them 2 mice per snake if their not jumbo's?

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I'm a newbie here still, but I'll tell you what almost anyone else here would say - you should feed your BP a mouse or rat that is 10-15% of their own body weight, every 5-7 for younger snakes and every 7-10 days for adults.

Unfortunately, the scale that the guy gave me is broken and doesn't give accurate readings.

Aw man, that's no good :/ well, until you can replace the scale, another method is to feed the snake a rat or mouse that's as big as the widest part of the snake. Not sure that will be much more helpful in this situation, but that's all I've got :) Maybe someone more knowledgeable will chime in, though I suspect others would tell you to just go get a new scale.

I've heard that too but the place I get them gave me pretty small mice this time which stunk. I don't know if I can only get the small ones to feed them if I should feed them 2 or not. I got to get them on f/t and get some method to this madness lol. Last time I had snakes was a long time ago and they eat f/t no problem so it was easy to get used to the same size and get a system down, now its a gamble with the live ones from a pet store.

She looks like she could easily handle large adult mice or rat pups. I'd try to get her switched to the rats asap or you're going to be going through many-a-rodent.

Looks like she could take large/jumbo adult mice or een weaned rats. Looks about the same size as my 500 grams bps, but also depends on how big your hand is lol.

LOL It's two different snakes. I would guess the female which I would have to guess is under 600 g and the male is maybe 400 g. Guess I'm just going to try to feed them another mouse tomorrow. When feeding them two live mice do you try to do it in the same night? My female I think is still hungry, she tried to get out when I opened her tub after she ate to put the hide box in which she never does. She clamped the side of the tub to and I had to pull her off hopefully she can digest the mouse now.

Sorry the second picture didn't load on my phone, I would try to get them over to rats so you dot have to feed multiple items at each feeding. At 400 and around 600 they both could easily take weane rats with out a problem.

Rule of thumb is 10-15% of your snakes weight is what prey size should be. Me, I eyeball it. They can eat prey as big around as their largest part. I would try to get them on rats. Maybe they need live, (which MUST be supervised) to stimulate them. If you have to feed multiple mice, yes, do if same night. One after the other until they are full. <------ This I have no experience with though, all mine eat rats and asf's. A scale would be a good idea though. Then you can keep track of your snakes growth. If your snakes are still acting hungry, they probably need bigger prey.

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I'm going to pick up some frozen rats tomorrow and just give it a shot, worst thing that would happen is they wont eat them and I'll have a little midnight snack. If they don't eat them I'll just buy 2 more live mice and feed them to them, or maybe I'll by frozen mice too just in case, and I defiantly got to go pick up a scale tomorrow too. If I can get them on f/t I'll be excited and start buying bulk. Thanks again for all the advice, I'll be here soon posting more questions.

I have 2 snakes that were mouse eaters, and oh boy were they a pain to switch over. In the long run it is so much easier to feed only one rat instead of 2 or 3 mice. Try the frozen rat but make sure it is warm enough before offering it. Also is it possible to get weaned/small rats where you are? If you can I'd go for those instead of more mice. I found that if I offered mice after a skipped meal or 2 then they would keep refusing the rats. Wait them out if you seriously want to switch them over to rats.

By the way nice snakes. I really like the top one.

The more I learn the more I feel they should be eating rats and f/t rats at that. I'm just going to go for the switch from live mice to f/t rats. I've heard countless horror stories on here about how long of a hunger strike they will go on. I'm definitely going need some support if they go on hunger strike for too long but who really knows maybe they'll mow them first try.

Might be easier to transition from mice to live or p/k rat first. Then from live or p/k to f/t. The longest hunger strike I've seen was about 3 and a half months. Good luck :)

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I have a couple young balls that were fed mice where they were hatched. I tried switching to rats by just putting the rats in there, I feed live, and neither of them would do anything, wouldn't even show interest, it is like they were lost. So after a few weeks of just being stubborn and just trying it that way I decided I would rather they eat, so... i started putting my live rats in the same small tub with a couple mice and their shavings to "scent" them. I would have to leave them in there for a couple hours but my two ball have eaten rats GREAT since I started doing that. My female bumblebee didn't eat for 3 weeks, I scented the rats and she has not eaten every 4 days.

I would defintely switch to rats, the size of your two look like they could handle weaned rats no issue, but try to scent them, it works very well.