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I see a head!

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  • 08-06-2012, 11:10 AM
    Satana
    I see a head!
    Well my surprise clutch is starting to hatch! ...if you haven't seen my other post, I rescued a beat up and scared bp and woke up one morning to eggs!...

    This is my very first time with all of this and I know it's just a head poking out but I want to thank you all of you for the help and guidance. With out you I wouldn't have gotten this far.

    I have 2 more quick questions. 1. After they shed and I have to feed them can I feed f/t or do I need to get some live pinks? 2. One of my eggs isn't dimpling in at all, I did the flashlight trick and I can see the veins and stuff so could it just be a late bloomer?

    And now here's the pic of the first head poking out!

    http://img.tapatalk.com/a693689a-de69-2ffc.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/a693689a-de77-a06c.jpg

    Thank you for your time! This is so exciting for me!
  • 08-06-2012, 11:13 AM
    Don
    Congratulations! For question 1 - yes you can attempt to feed the second time f/t, but don't be surprised if the babies don't eat. Sometimes it takes two or three feedings before they switch over. 2) If you have veins in that egg, it should be OK. Sometimes they don't dimple until right at the end and some eggs take longer than others to pip.

    congratulations again! That first clutch is always exciting!
  • 08-06-2012, 11:26 AM
    Satana
    Thank you so much. How long on average does it usually take until they shed? The local expo I can get live from isn't until the 19. If that's too long there is a place about 45 min away that sells some live.

    How often after the first shed do you feed? I've heard varied answers from 2 days after to 5 days after. And then what is the feeding schedule? Every 3 days or every 5?

    Is pinky or fuzzy mice better? I would think pinks would be too small
  • 08-06-2012, 11:33 AM
    Don
    First, remain calm. Take a deep breath! You have plenty of time. It takes about a week for them to shed then you can attempt feeding any time after that, but you may have a little better success if you wait a few days after the shed. I've had babies go up to a month after the shed before eating their first meal. I usually feed every 3 to 5 days. When they are really small, 3 days then slowly go up to 5 days. My babies stay in the incubator until that first shed. Then they go into the shoe box rack for babies.

    Fuzzy mice have a lot of movement and are great first time feeders. I usually try rat pinkies and if that doesn't work, go with mouse fuzzies.
  • 08-06-2012, 11:34 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    How exciting! Usually a fuzzy mouse is good for super small bps. But mine bp was 62 grams and could eat a small mouse without a problem. So I moved her to a medium mouse. All depends on how big they are. But feeding under is never a bad idea because it is only easier for them to kill and swallow.


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  • 08-06-2012, 11:51 AM
    Satana
    Thank you! I will start with fuzzies. So you guys suggest I do the first two feedings live then try f/t?
  • 08-06-2012, 02:00 PM
    don15681
    Re: I see a head!
    I would do a few live feedings and after they show a good feeding response. then try a freshly killed. If they don't take it, you can then freeze it, use it after they take a freshly killed one. should have some large tongs, so you can have some movement with the dead rodent without risking a snake bite to yourself.
  • 08-06-2012, 03:40 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    First meal I have always offered f/t but have live mouse hoppers on hand. I offer f/t first, if a no go then theyre offered live. I've never done a transition from live to pre killed to f/t. They typically will either take f/t or live for the first meal. I would also offer prey twice per week for hatchies
  • 08-06-2012, 04:08 PM
    Satana
    Awesome, thank you all again so much! I will keep this thread alive and keep updating with pics as the rest hatch.
  • 08-06-2012, 05:02 PM
    Lazarus1437
    Re: I see a head!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Satana View Post
    Awesome, thank you all again so much! I will keep this thread alive and keep updating with pics as the rest hatch.

    Patiently waiting :gj:
  • 08-06-2012, 05:14 PM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lazarus1437 View Post
    Patiently waiting :gj:

    I'm like 99% sure they will all be normals since she was a rescue but you never know. It's still super awesome to me tho!
  • 08-06-2012, 05:18 PM
    Lazarus1437
    Re: I see a head!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Satana View Post
    I'm like 99% sure they will all be normals since she was a rescue but you never know. It's still super awesome to me tho!

    Even if they are pretty little normals I'm sure it's still an amazing process to go through and witness.
  • 08-06-2012, 09:53 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Yay that is exciting! I can't wait to see them all out!
  • 08-06-2012, 11:55 PM
    Satana
  • 08-07-2012, 12:08 AM
    PorcelainxDoll
    Its a cute lil thing :)

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  • 08-07-2012, 11:00 AM
    Satana
    76 grams.. I don't know if that's good weight or not lol. All I know is my 1 1/2 month old boa is only 100g so this little one seems big to me.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/a693689f-2d32-169f.jpg
  • 08-07-2012, 11:01 AM
    Don
    76 grams is a great weight for a new hatchling. Congratulations!
  • 08-07-2012, 11:22 AM
    Satana
    Yay! Thank you! I'm glad I did everything right! Well so far
  • 08-07-2012, 11:32 AM
    Satana
    Here's the second one. Are the bubbles normal?
    http://img.tapatalk.com/a6936899-34fd-5d1b.jpg
  • 08-07-2012, 11:32 AM
    Wicked Constrictors
    Congrats, thats a cute little baby:P
  • 08-07-2012, 11:46 AM
    Akira
    Cute little one :)

    bubbles are completely normal, kinda cute too :)

    When my babies shed I offered all a f/t rat pink, only one didn't take it. I then offered her a live rat pink and she didn't eat it. So next feeding I offered a f/t rat pink and she grabbed it off the tongs. I waited 3-5 days after the first shed to feed, she was the only one that was only 3 days past her shed so I guess she just wasn't hungry.
  • 08-07-2012, 11:57 AM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Cute little one :)

    bubbles are completely normal, kinda cute too :)

    When my babies shed I offered all a f/t rat pink, only one didn't take it. I then offered her a live rat pink and she didn't eat it. So next feeding I offered a f/t rat pink and she grabbed it off the tongs. I waited 3-5 days after the first shed to feed, she was the only one that was only 3 days past her shed so I guess she just wasn't hungry.

    Thank you. I think I will offer f/t first and if they take it awesome if not I'll run out and grab some live :D
  • 08-08-2012, 02:29 AM
    Argentra
    Very pretty baby there... I love how dark it is. If I didn't know the mom was a normal, I would call that one a black pastel, or at least a black back. :D

    Good luck with the rest of them! :gj:
  • 08-08-2012, 08:08 AM
    DooLittle
    How exciting! Cute little guy :)

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  • 08-09-2012, 08:58 AM
    Satana
    #2 this little one was snapping at me like a croc!
    http://img.tapatalk.com/63bdc610-b3a4-d412.jpg

    #3 (so far my fav)
    http://img.tapatalk.com/63bdc610-b3d9-3101.jpg

    #4
    http://img.tapatalk.com/63bdc610-b3ed-88de.jpg

    And #5 has its head poking out so I should have pics of that little one soon
  • 08-09-2012, 09:11 AM
    oskyle1567
    Congrats!! I think it was the rescue snakes way of saying thank you :D if you get a male and female you should keep the pair just incase! Maybe she was bred to a lavender you never know :gj:
  • 08-09-2012, 09:17 AM
    Satana
    I think I am keeping #3 at least. That almost complete lack of stripe is beautiful!

    Ive posted these little ones on a few of my other forums and a lot of people are saying that they don't think they are quite "normal" nobody is really for sure and I'm no expert, I'm just glad they are alive.
  • 08-09-2012, 09:32 AM
    Satana
    This is the mom pretending to be a dog lol she is also a fan of watching tv in the dog bed.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/63bdc610-bbd8-e41e.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/63bdc610-bbea-92e7.jpg
  • 08-09-2012, 09:45 AM
    Kinra
    Mom is pretty and I really like #3 too, it has a nice black back. :gj:
  • 08-11-2012, 11:34 AM
    Satana
    Well everyone hatched and is looking great they are weighing in between 70-76g a piece. I can't wait for them to shed to see what their true colors are. Right now they are almost pure black and a very bright gold. Im sure that's how they all look when born but it makes me happy anyway :)
  • 08-12-2012, 03:35 AM
    Slashmaster
    Chicago... the place you must be thinking of must be Chicago Reptile House? I don't know whereabouts you are in the area but I go to CRH every Wednesday to pick up live prey for my snakes and I'm in Downers Grove, so if you'd like I could grab some live for your hatchlings next time I go if you're anywhere near that. *shrug*
  • 08-12-2012, 12:27 PM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slashmaster View Post
    Chicago... the place you must be thinking of must be Chicago Reptile House? I don't know whereabouts you are in the area but I go to CRH every Wednesday to pick up live prey for my snakes and I'm in Downers Grove, so if you'd like I could grab some live for your hatchlings next time I go if you're anywhere near that. *shrug*

    There is a place called Rainbow Pets and it is in Schaumburg. They sell live and it's a lot closer then CRH. I don't know the prices since I usually buy my live from the all animal expo. There is one next Sunday so that might be perfect timing. I don't know when they will shed next.

    Thank you so much for the offer tho! That's really sweet of you.
  • 08-12-2012, 01:32 PM
    Anthony Renna
    looks like 3 could be a blackback and 4 is a reduced pattern just like mom, they are all very pretty and well deserved for rescuing mom
  • 08-12-2012, 02:09 PM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Anthony Renna View Post
    looks like 3 could be a blackback and 4 is a reduced pattern just like mom, they are all very pretty and well deserved for rescuing mom

    :D thank you!
  • 08-12-2012, 06:52 PM
    Slashmaster
    Quote:

    Rainbow Pets and it is in Schaumburg
    Oooohhhhh I've never heard of that one! I'll have to check them out next time I'm on the road in that area >u<
    I love reptile shops.
  • 08-12-2012, 08:21 PM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slashmaster View Post
    Oooohhhhh I've never heard of that one! I'll have to check them out next time I'm on the road in that area >u<
    I love reptile shops.

    It's a pretty decent place. Kinda has that mom and pop feel. They are super nice too
  • 08-23-2012, 12:01 PM
    Satana
    *Update*
    All the babies have shed. None would take f/t I placed a live pink in with each of them and all but 3 and 5 ate. :)
  • 08-23-2012, 12:15 PM
    TerrieL
    Re: I see a head!
    congrats. I have been following your thread and enjoying reading about your babies progress. Please post some post shed pictures when you can, would love to see them :gj:
  • 08-26-2012, 11:49 PM
    Satana
    I don't have any shed pics right now but I'll try to get some. So far they are all doing well. Only 2 out of the 5 have refused to eat so far but I am hoping they are just slow starters
  • 08-27-2012, 12:13 AM
    Kaorte
    I have ASF hoppers if you'd like some for the picky ones! I am in Chicago on the south side. Let me know if you'd like some! They should be a good size for hatchlings in about a week.

    Congrats on the babies!
  • 08-27-2012, 09:31 PM
    Satana
    Re: I see a head!
  • 08-27-2012, 09:37 PM
    Exotic Ectotherms
    They are all very pretty. Awesome story and even better babies!!!! Congrats!
  • 08-27-2012, 09:52 PM
    TerrieL
    Re: I see a head!
    They are beautiful, thank you for sharing
  • 08-27-2012, 11:15 PM
    Kaorte
    Awesome! You'll like the ASFs. They are pretty cute lil guys. Also convenient to have on hand if you have a lot of ball pythons!

    They look great after their first shed! All of them have really nice patterns and colors, especially baby #3! That partial black back is niiiiice
  • 08-27-2012, 11:40 PM
    Scaleyz
    Re: I see a head!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Satana View Post
    Thank you so much. How long on average does it usually take until they shed? The local expo I can get live from isn't until the 19. If that's too long there is a place about 45 min away that sells some live.

    How often after the first shed do you feed? I've heard varied answers from 2 days after to 5 days after. And then what is the feeding schedule? Every 3 days or every 5?

    Is pinky or fuzzy mice better? I would think pinks would be too small

    Honestly, I think trying a f/t first would be your best bet only because 1. it will be a warm f/t and they won't know the difference and if the food response is there it's there. If they don't take it after a 2 attempts then I would try the live. Of course they will most always take the live, but if you can get them started on f/t from the start so much better, especially like you say you have quite a distance to travel. Congratulations on the clutch btw, love the pictures. Can't wait to see more :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Gorgeous babies, you should be so proud!!!! Pat yourself on the back :D Job well done :banana:
  • 08-28-2012, 01:35 AM
    Sama
    They are all so cute! Baby 3 is awesome with the black back thing going on. Glad you gave mom a good home! And just in time it seems!
  • 08-28-2012, 01:42 AM
    Satana
    Thank you everyone! I just wish 3 & 5 would eat :( when should I start to actually worry? I am already worried but I know some just don't eat right away.
  • 08-28-2012, 03:49 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    They are lovely. I think I've read some will go for a month or two without eating. Then I guess it's a good time to try and assist feed but everyone said to leave that as a last resort.


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  • 08-28-2012, 06:08 AM
    therunaway
    >3< Erh Mah Gerd! Baybehs!
  • 08-28-2012, 12:53 PM
    Satana
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    They are lovely. I think I've read some will go for a month or two without eating. Then I guess it's a good time to try and assist feed but everyone said to leave that as a last resort.


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    Ok thank you, I will keep offering and when it hits a month I will try to assist feed.
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