supprise super vanilla dam to pastel sire ???

so it all started off with breeding a pastel to a normal female ball python and x days later we had hatching eggs but to my friend's surprise we hatched these beautiful little creatures out here are a few pics of the babies and they are definitely something special, but the thing that sucks is that we lost track of who the mother is ( due to a miss-understanding on my part )

but do you guys have any idea what these babies are

and i believe the mother is disco or vanilla or something new !but out of all 5 babies all looked "special" even the normals but two of the babies were a pastel version of this gene so could the mother be a super ?


P.S. the normal pastel in pic 2 is not a litter mate from this clutch



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How many possibilities are there of who the mother is?
The last picture looks like a pastel calico.

"Are you my Mother ?"
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there are probably 16 or so females that could be the mother http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image.../icon_rofl.gif we pretty much were setting up a new rack and re tagging all of the normal females and they all got mixed up so we lost all info , all that is recorded is who laid eggs and when (on most :/ ) its kind of a bad mess on my part

What a mess! thats why I marked my egg tub in the bator, even though I only had one clutch!

They are pretty babies but I have no clue what they are.

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This is where my OCD comes in handy, and my label maker LOL

does anyone have a idea of what these babies could be ?

Pastels until you breed them out to figure out if something else is going on.

If the mother looks normal, that limits possibilities. Perhaps she is a yellowbelly. I sincerely doubt she's a vanilla, since they are fairly easy to spot once you know what to look for. And the babies don't look Vanilla Pastel to me. Disco I don't have much experience with so I can't say.

They could also just be exceptional pastels. I've seen it before. I wouldn't call them anything else until you know for sure.

Gale

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there are probably 16 or so females that could be the mother http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image.../icon_rofl.gif we pretty much were setting up a new rack and re tagging all of the normal females and they all got mixed up so we lost all info , all that is recorded is who laid eggs and when (on most :/ ) its kind of a bad mess on my part

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What are the 16 females that could be the mother? All normals or some morphs? Having a list of possibilities will help us narrow it down.

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My answer is "One of the above" lol

The hatchling in the third photo looks like it may be a Pastel YB.
Can you post a Belly pic of that animal... or you could just ship it to me.

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What are the 16 females that could be the mother? All normals or some morphs? Having a list of possibilities will help us narrow it down.

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Check their info and see when each one laid, its gonna be roughly 52-60 days before they hatched. List all those females for us and we will help narrow it down to a possibility. But like someone else said, it would be just our best guess and selling that animal as that morph may turn out to be a pain later on if it is something else, ya know?

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all of the mothers are "normals " i believe we have narroed it down to a female normal that looks like a specter to me i will try to post a pic of her tomorrow. does anyone think this could be possible ? this female is very very very special , she is actually one that caught my eve befor and she is the only dam with a matching lay date so im 99 % sure that she is sht mother of the clutch, do these babies look like they can be pastel specters ? at all

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it is also deffinatley not a pastel yelloowbelly we hatched out some pastel yellowbellies about a week before and they look nothing alike

Unfortunately even if it looks exactly like a spector. Your still gonna have to prove it out! . I suggest holding back a male and breeding it to a yellowbelly. Or pm me and ill buy one from you and help you prove it out!

so many people think that it is a firefly what do you guys think ?

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so many people think that it is a firefly what do you guys think ?

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That's what I was saying to Robert on facebook. I'd have to see them in person and pics can be deceiving. I'd need to see all the other hatchlings also...

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luckily we may also have some firebees if this is a firefly!