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  • 07-24-2012, 05:42 PM
    Jason Miller
    Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    I really like the yellows and oranges that you can make with BPs I have a thing for Albino's orange and Pastel's Yellow but my Pastel's browned out and I have never had an Albino so 2 questions I guess Which ones hold the yellow and does Albinism fade (I really want a true High Contrast Albino Pair but I havn't found anyone close to me and shipping I have heard is risky especially in this heat... DSM, Iowa) thankyou for your time and information if you have any :)
  • 07-24-2012, 05:58 PM
    satomi325
    Anything with Hypo in it seem to get better with age. And multi-gened combos seem to keep their colors very well (Quality Super Pastels and Pastel lessers seem to come to mind immediately.)

    My HC was super bright orange as a baby. He's still rather vibrant but not as orange as a sub-adult.
    As a hatchling-
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/IMAG0773.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/IMAG0786.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...82579549_n.jpg

    Sub adult-

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/IMG_6096.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/IMG_6113.jpg
  • 07-24-2012, 05:58 PM
    decensored
    Pastel and Axanthic genes are the big fadders.

    If you want something that stays light go for a hypo OG. As far as I'm aware albinos don't fade either, but I have never worked with them so I can't tell you that out of experience.
  • 07-24-2012, 06:10 PM
    h00blah
    Fireflies..... Enchis... These look better as they age :gj:. I'm sure there are more. The enhancer morphs really help keep some of the morphs lookn hot as they age :gj:.
  • 07-24-2012, 06:19 PM
    Royal Hijinx
  • 07-24-2012, 07:49 PM
    alkibp
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"

    Your BEL is awesome. :D
  • 07-24-2012, 08:29 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by decensored View Post
    As far as I'm aware albinos don't fade either, but I have never worked with them so I can't tell you that out of experience.

    most fade to a lighter yellow, but by no means brown out.

    I would say just look into hypo combos, it does some wonderful things to most morphs.
  • 07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
    Emilio
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    Fire's and Lesser's get better with age..:gj:
  • 07-24-2012, 09:17 PM
    Mike41793
    Get a fire ghost. I cant wait to make/produce one!
  • 07-24-2012, 09:39 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Get a fire ghost. I cant wait to make/produce one!

    I was just drooling over those on Mike Wilbanks site.
  • 07-25-2012, 01:35 AM
    Andybill
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jinx667 View Post
    I was just drooling over those on Mike Wilbanks site.

    I have been drooling over those on his site for a couple weeks now. I wish I had the money!
  • 07-25-2012, 01:51 AM
    snakesRkewl
    2002 albino female full of eggs, she gave us 9 last year and I'm pretty sure she has 9 again this year.
    I think she's retained nice bright yellows...even when chowing down.
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/PICT0433.jpg

    Good bee's with good genetics don't have to brown out...4 year old bee female
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/100_0549.jpg

    Nice butters can retain their good looks too...4 year old butter female
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/IMG_8996.jpg

    The key is quality, don't settle for anything less and you won't be disappointed in the long run.
  • 07-28-2012, 12:53 AM
    Jason Miller
    Thankyou all I wish I could afford some of thoses babies thats for sure!! the HC has been on my list since I started this hobby and I want a Firefly I was wondering If anyone knew of a BP with multiple yellow enhancers like a fire-enchi-hypo-sumthing sumthing lol If I know the prices go way up the more thats in it but when I want to actually start breeding I am thinking about getting one male with like a 4 banger in him to produce multiple types of offspring with my normal females(3) (lost my job for 6 months so I sold my collection to keep afloat plus feeding all of them was just something I couldn't afford with no job) Would anyone else do this?? or is it a better to have like a bee, a spinner, firefly males?
  • 07-28-2012, 01:56 AM
    loonunit
    Lavender albinos really do get better with age. Not all of them turn fully lavender, but the best examples are always adults.

    Pieds do brown out some, but they keep the white patches and pattern that really made them spectacular to begin with. An adult pied is generally much more impressive than a baby, even if the babies usually have brighter colors. And sometimes the adults pick up neat little black freckles in their white patches.

    My super mojave actually look a little "dirtier" with each shed, like she rolled on a charcoal drawing. I don't know if it'll turn into pattern in another year. But white snakes aren't completely immune.
  • 07-28-2012, 02:12 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Some morphs increase in brown coloration as they age, and some don't. You simply have to go through and look at photos of hatchlings and adults of the morph, and compare. In some cases, the 'browning out' is actually an improvement--for example, the Toffee begins looking just like an albino, and then browns out to one of the more gorgeous morphs on the market today.

    Some morphs get darker with age, and some get lighter with age. Some don't do either, but most will look a bit different when they are adults from the way they look as hatchlings.

    In general, orange on a hatchling morph that does brown out will turn to brown with age. Of course, it simply can't do so in some morphs--orange ghosts, for example, don't get more brown, because the brown and black colors are reduced by the mutation. They may, however lighten a bit in color.

    Ask to see photos of the parents of a baby you're considering. A baby that looks good, but has parents that don't, might not age as well as you think it might--on the other hand, a baby you're unsure of, that has excellent parents, may turn out better.
  • 07-28-2012, 01:02 PM
    PsychD_Student
    Re: Are there morphs that don't "Brown out"
    Ultramels don't brown out too much with age. They still look amazing as adults IMHO.

    Caramel glows look pretty great too! Those caramels with the hypo gene.

    I'd also argue that the Criders and the Bell Line Caramels look good as adults. I'm a big fan of the T+ albino genes.
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