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  • 07-22-2012, 12:39 AM
    TwoPennies™
    please help rookie owner
    I just got my ball python yesterday and he is super jumpy and looks as if he is going to strike me when me our my girl friend handles him he just ate he seems very nervous am I doing anything wrong he is six months old in 10 gallon tank I have heating pad and heat lamp and hide but he never leaves his hide..is this normal
  • 07-22-2012, 12:43 AM
    Daybreaker
    Can you explain your setup more? How are you measuring temps, what are the temps, is your UTH regulated with a thermostat, etc

    It's not unusual for BPs to not leave their hide, that's what they do. If they're roaming that usually isn't a good thing: it means they're stressed or hungry. A hiding BP is (usually) a happy BP.

    He's probably very defensive because you just got him and he needs to acclimate to all his new surroundings. Give him a week with no handling so he can de-stress.

    How soon did you handle him after he ate and for how long?
  • 07-22-2012, 01:07 AM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    My uth isn't regulated I have a starter tank from zilla I have a thermostat for humidity and temperature humidity is fifty percent temp is 80-85 I've handled him about five times since he ate about two days ago the pet store I got him at was real shady in a swap meet lol the first one I got had ticks so I sent him back for a wash and got anew tank for this one the first one was very calm this one is alot healthier but seemsto be on edge I won't handle him but I'm afraid he might strike me so I'm very cautious when handling him he makes me feel very nervous and my gf who was excitedat first is starting to have second thoughts I really like him but I'm worried about him striking her.
  • 07-22-2012, 01:29 AM
    jon7
    Give him/her a week minimum to adjust to the new place like Daybreaker said. After that, its just a matter of getting them used to you. But dont give up!! Keep handling him/her for an hour or 2 every couple days. he/she will get better with time. Of it helps any, the bites from little babies do not hurt at all.
  • 07-22-2012, 01:35 AM
    PorcelainxDoll
    So forst off you need to get a thermost to regulate your heat mat.
    Also what kind of thermometers are you using? Dials or digital?
    the dial ones are very inaccurate.

    After feeding you should rwfrain from holding him for at leadt 48 hrs.
    When getting a new bp give him at least a week with no handling to acclomate. Hes probably striking because hes stressed and after hes eaten a few meals for you then start handling for short 5-10 min sessions, and only once a day preferebly at night bps are nocturnal. But its very important ypu dont handle 48 grs after feeding because he could get so stressed that he regurgitates, which is really tough on a snake.
  • 07-22-2012, 09:18 AM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Okay see the only thing is he hasn't bitten me yet I think he is just very shy he seeMs to be more icomfortable with me then my girlfriend but she moves a lot I'm r
    Tight on money so is the dial thermostat dangerous because if he is on his heating pad at night in the morning he is warm to the touch which worries me I hope he knows to move if he its too hot we don't want to hurt him.
  • 07-22-2012, 09:27 AM
    PorcelainxDoll
    A thermostat is a MUST! For a uth! They can get so hot that rhey will burn tthe snake.
    dial thermometers are very inaccurate.
    they can say that your temps 85 but it really be 95 or higher.
    They have digital thermometers at walmart called accurite for like 12$.
    best advice i can give is to get a thermostat get the digital thermometers, and stop hhandling your bp for about a week. Then try to feed him if he eats give him 2 more days no handling then start slowly handlong for 5.min each session once a day.
  • 07-22-2012, 12:25 PM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    So shouldI turn heater of in meantime
  • 07-22-2012, 12:31 PM
    PorcelainxDoll
    I would say no because you dont want him to get to cold but i would monitor his temps religuously to make sure ge doesnt get burned.

    I dont even use a uth for fear of it burning my bp. I use a 75 watt infared red night viewing light and an actual small heater on a very low setting about 1ft away from the cage to keep his hot side temps up. Its a little harded to keep the humidiry controlled but i dont worry about my snake getting byrned
  • 07-22-2012, 01:22 PM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    I felt the hot side and its been on all night and it isn't very hot he is chilling in the light right now I just have a daylight bulb he seemed skittle more calm today he's had his head out of his hide morning but sucks his head in if we step towards the cage

    sorry for typos I'm using smart phone
  • 07-22-2012, 02:12 PM
    Daybreaker
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwoPennies™ View Post
    I felt the hot side and its been on all night and it isn't very hot he is chilling in the light right now I just have a daylight bulb he seemed skittle more calm today he's had his head out of his hide morning but sucks his head in if we step towards the cage

    sorry for typos I'm using smart phone

    The hot side not "feeling very hot" doesn't mean it's not hot enough to burn your snake. I'd run out to get a lamp dimmer NOW ($9 at Home Depot) and put your UTH on that until you save up to get a good thermostat.

    You could black out 3 sides of your tank with black construction paper to make him feel more secure too: or I just put a towel over my corn's cage when he's in shed to give him some privacy (he's my only snake in a tank, everyone else are in tubs).
  • 07-22-2012, 02:51 PM
    Kaorte
    Lol, no offense but you need some punctuation in your posts. If you have a smart phone it shouldn't be very hard. They are called smart phones for a reason!

    It's hard to help when you have to fumble through a mush of words just to find out what is going on.

    I understand being tight on money, but there are some pieces of equipment you absolutely need for the safety of your animal. Unless you want a burned or cooked snake on your hands I suggest you gather your pennies and get a few basic pieces of equipment.

    1. A rheostat. You can get one from the home depot for about $10 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...41&R=202051141
    This will help you control the temps of your heating pad. It will require daily adjustments though.

    2. A good digital thermometer. You can also get one of these from the home depot. Many of us here use an Accurite weather station for stand alone setups. The most basic unit has a probed thermometer (for outdoor temp) and a thermometer and hygrometer at the unit (indoor temp and humidity). These guys usually run about $11


    As far as his behavior goes you have to understand what it must be like for this little one. You are a giant predator and for all the tiny snake knows, you are going to eat him. Leave him alone. Don't handle him at all for at least a week. Then you can start short handling sessions, 10 minutes every few days. You have to be patient. Don't be bothered if he does strike or bite you, it doesn't mean he will always be like that and honestly, getting bit by a baby ball python is no big deal. It doesn't hurt at all, it's just surprising.

    I hope this helps. :) and :welcome: !
  • 07-26-2012, 10:26 PM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Okay so today I checked my ball and found a more running across his head I gave him a Luke warm bath and am going to clean his cage but I heard mites can be very resilient I am very worried about my little guy today I also noticed he looks a little kg and his eyes are a creamy white color can this be a bad sign? I've had problems with the pet store before with my first ball who had literally thousands of mites on him I thought I got rid of then all I don't want to take home back but I don't have money for a vet if he is sick either is his eyes a bad sign
  • 07-26-2012, 10:40 PM
    xXCleoPatraXx
    Re: please help rookie owner
    His eye color could be normal if he is going into shed, if you can post a pic of her eyes and id try to get repti-aid Mite Off you can get it at your local pet store, make sure his cage is EXTREMELY Humid, this may help him. :) Don't worry im sure he'll be fine
  • 07-26-2012, 10:49 PM
    Daybreaker
    I'd actually pick up a can of Prevent a Mite (PAM) over Mite-Off. You can order a can here: http://www.pro-products.com/index.ph...d=53&Itemid=59

    Don't spray it directly on the snake - you mist the cage and substrate with it then after that air drys you put the snake back in. There's directions on the can.
  • 07-27-2012, 12:31 AM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Okay so I bought some PAM it should be here soon also I am leaving for the weekend should I turn off lamp or uth or leave them both on
  • 07-27-2012, 01:03 AM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Okay so I bought some PAM it should be here soon also I am leaving for the weekend should I turn off lamp or uth or leave them both on
  • 07-27-2012, 08:50 AM
    Kaorte
    I would leave the lamp on but turn the (still unregulated?) UTH off. Don't feed your snake before you leave and he should be fine. Make sure the water bowl is full :)
  • 07-27-2012, 09:35 AM
    TwoPennies™
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Okay thank you guys I should be getting a digital thermometer this week end I think I'm just going to ditch the uth I don't want my little one getting burned
  • 07-27-2012, 09:55 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: please help rookie owner
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwoPennies™ View Post
    Okay thank you guys I should be getting a digital thermometer this week end I think I'm just going to ditch the uth I don't want my little one getting burned

    I wouldn't throw it away all together, once you have the money for a thermostat it could be very useful!
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