copper head morph?

I had a thought about this. Wonder what it would take in genetics to be produced but a ball python with the same colours and bending as a copper head. What do you guys think?

I'm thinking maybe a browned out pastel lesser with a reduced pattern might look somewhat like a copperhead. Copperhead are my favorite venomous snake, their amazing patter/ colors and I was able to catch one while herping in upstate NY 3 years ago makes them top of my list.

This super chocolate I hatched last year (and sold) was particularly bright and copper head like:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201109..._clutch1m1.jpg

Might have pastel or yb in there but I couldn't find an e-mail for the guy with pastel super chocolate to ask about the belly (this guy had a muddy super chocolate belly and not a yb or pastel belly like I would have expected in a combo but who knows which would win out).

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

This super chocolate I hatched last year (and sold) was particularly bright and copper head like:

http://snakemorphs.com/images/201109..._clutch1m1.jpg

Might have pastel or yb in there but I couldn't find an e-mail for the guy with pastel super chocolate to ask about the belly (this guy had a muddy super chocolate belly and not a yb or pastel belly like I would have expected in a combo but who knows which would win out).

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That is nice and all but I am talking about a ball morph that resembles a copper head shake

it would have the same horizontal stripes as a copper head, or close to it with the gray and copper colors. I think if you find a normal with that might have genetic stripes on its back going all the way across and can prove it as genetics, then start mixing morphs with it I think it can be done... Of course it may take 10 years or so to fully prove it out

An Axanthic Caramel comes close to this in color just needs more grey...

After your ax cam idea, made me think a nice reduced pattern ax lesser could come close, or ax enchi lesser. Man now you got
Me thinking what morphs could make a ball python get the came colors as a few different snake species.:D

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Originally Posted by 1nstinct

After your ax cam idea, made me think a nice reduced pattern ax lesser could come close, or ax enchi lesser. Man now you got
Me thinking what morphs could make a ball python get the came colors as a few different snake species.:D

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the Ax Lesser comes really close over the ax enchi lesser. But you still need to redden it out just a bit.

If you want a copperhead morph, get a copperhead. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by therunaway

If you want a copperhead morph, get a copperhead. :rolleyes:

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that would take 1,000 hours of training and $15,000 cashiers check to own. I think it would be easier to play around genetics and have some fun on morphs and enjoy ball pythons

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Originally Posted by crepers86

that would take 1,000 hours of training and $15,000 cashiers check to own. I think it would be easier to play around genetics and have some fun on morphs and enjoy ball pythons

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I was kidding. :weirdface

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Originally Posted by therunaway

I was kidding. :weirdface

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I knew that so what do you think of this idea

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Originally Posted by crepers86

That is nice and all but I am talking about a ball morph that resembles a copper head shake

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Been a long time since I was young and foolish enough to pick up a copper head; don't remember exactly what they look like (maybe you can post a pic). Maybe some combo of current single gene ball python genetic would get a little closer but someone was talking about a selectively bred good match and that might be more like 1,000 years breeding than 10 (3 gen top?).

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Originally Posted by crepers86

that would take 1,000 hours of training and $15,000 cashiers check to own. I think it would be easier to play around genetics and have some fun on morphs and enjoy ball pythons

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From what I saw on Texas venomous laws, its a 20.00 permit for year for an unlimited number of regulated snakes. It's pretty much the big boids hit by lacy act and non-local venomous. But copperheads are native to Texas so from what I've seen it shouldn't be a problem.

I too love copperheads, they were my first venomous snakes I ever owned, hell that was over 10 years ago. But to make a ball morph, I remember playing around on world of balls and thinking that the desert enchi lesser looked kinda like copperhead. Maybe if we took that and bred it to a "genetic tiger" we could get the bands from him with the color of the desert enchi lesser and be kinda of close.

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Originally Posted by crepers86

that would take 1,000 hours of training and $15,000 cashiers check to own. I think it would be easier to play around genetics and have some fun on morphs and enjoy ball pythons

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A ball python morph with the same physical appearance of a copper head would probably be worth more than that $15000. haha.

What about the sunset gene in combination with the axanthic lesser? Given that it's a recessive it might be less likely to overpower the lesser/axanthic genes than what would a champagne. I'm not sure champagne or sunset either one would really be the correct red but in combination with the other two it might just blush/tinge it red enough to get the copperhead look to it. That would be one incredible looking snake if you nailed the color and pattern both!