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  • 07-18-2012, 10:55 PM
    alexr
    switching from tank to tub!
    finally deciding to switch from 20 gallon tank to plastic tub. It is a 59 qt. 30 x 23 x 6 clear tub with bifold top. My bp is about 19 inches long. just wanted to get some advice on whats teh best way to set this up.. just hide on each side and water bowl in the middle with a couple of logs or rocks scattered around and some brushery...
  • 07-18-2012, 11:06 PM
    Capray
    Re: switching from tank to tub!
    Check the stickies for an awesome tub setup walkthrough!:gj:
  • 07-18-2012, 11:12 PM
    Tfpets
    Good idea to switch, but that seems extremely large for such a small snake! That's actually a bit large for most adults.
    As far as setup, the same rules apply. Hot side, cool side, 2 hides and a water dish. Substrate can be what you choose but I recommend to keep the entire setup as simple as possible!
  • 07-18-2012, 11:14 PM
    Daybreaker
    And a regulated UTH or flexwatt...key word regulated so it doesn't melt any plastic on the tub (or burn the snake).
  • 07-18-2012, 11:29 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alexr View Post
    finally deciding to switch from 20 gallon tank to plastic tub. It is a 59 qt. 30 x 23 x 6 clear tub with bifold top. My bp is about 19 inches long. just wanted to get some advice on whats teh best way to set this up.. just hide on each side and water bowl in the middle with a couple of logs or rocks scattered around and some brushery...

    Drill/solder holes in the tub. It will depend on your location as to how many holes you will need.

    Attach a UTH that is about 1/3rd of the tub. The UTH MUST be regulated by a thermostat.

    Place a hide on each side, and a water dish.

    If you're using an accurite, you can drill a hole near the unit and have the excess cord outside of the tub. Drill a hole on the hot side so you can push through the probe to place over your UTH.
  • 07-19-2012, 12:18 AM
    satomi325
    Take a look at this Sticky Tutorial.
    It has everything you need to know about setting up a stand alone tub.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...e-Basics-*DUW*

    How much does your snake weigh? Length means nothing to most of us. So it's more difficult to gauge what kind of tub you want.


    Here is my list of tub sizes to BP weight ratio:

    6 qt - for hatchlings
    16 qt - 500 or less grams
    28/32 qt - 2000 or less grams
    41 qt - 2000 + gram adults
  • 07-19-2012, 12:23 AM
    alexr
    Re: switching from tank to tub!
    idk how much she weighs... i dont have a scale. but right now she is temporarily in a 15qt. tub. she will probably be good in that for a while i just got a bigger one so that she could have a warm side and cold side hide and all... but idk...
  • 07-19-2012, 03:54 AM
    steez
    Remember that your room ambient temp needs to be high enough to make the ambient temp in the tub high enough. This was my only problem with a tub setup.

    But good luck!
  • 07-19-2012, 06:54 AM
    kitedemon
    2x on the room temp. If you have had any problems with heating the tank the tub is going to reduce the options for secondary heating. (uth and bulb to keep temps correct for example) As you can imagine tubs have next to no insulating value they simply do not hold heat well at all. Don't substitute one problem for a new one, (humidity for heating)
  • 07-19-2012, 09:57 PM
    alexr
    Re: switching from tank to tub!
    i have her in a temporary 15 qt tub right now but i returned the 59 qt long tub and got a 28 qt tub cuz its hard to have a cold side and hot side in a 15 qt. so tomorrow i will have her all set up in her new tub for good.
  • 07-20-2012, 03:09 PM
    Kaorte
    I have a cool side and a warm side in a 15qt tub. What exactly is the problem? You can keep her in there for probably the next year. By all means, move her up to the 28qt if you wish, but they like the tight cramped spaces.
  • 07-20-2012, 10:06 PM
    alexr
    how do you have your 15qt setup, can you show me a pic please?
  • 07-20-2012, 10:40 PM
    Kaorte
    Just snapped this quick picture

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/7...1d8d6d51_b.jpg

    I have them in a rack, if you aren't using a rack you might want two hides. At the back of the rack is a 4" wide piece of flexwatt tape for heat. It covers about 1/3 of the bottom of the tub.
  • 07-20-2012, 11:22 PM
    alexr
    hows this look? this is the 15 qt.
    http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMG_0436.jpg


    this was the 28 qt
    http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMG_0432.jpg

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    and just to let you know i do have probe thermometers inside each hide as well... they just come directly out an are mounted to the side so they arent visible.
  • 07-21-2012, 12:12 AM
    Kaorte
    The 15qt tub looks good :) I'd say wait to put her in the 28qt tub until she is around 500-700g :)
  • 07-21-2012, 12:21 AM
    alexr
    Re: switching from tank to tub!
    ok cooll.. and i just ordered a 600g scale so i guess when she outweighs that ill switcher her over.. perfect... and also, ive heard alot that the half log hides arent that great.. i added some moss around the entrance and also inside to make it feel more secure, do you think itd be a good idea to just get a new one. like one of those rectangular plastic ones it seems everyone has?

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    bc this is my first snake and i thought the log would be good for shedding purposes
  • 07-21-2012, 02:17 AM
    spankege
    For hides in my tub i just cut an opening in a wax bowl. They are reusable and that's what was in the basement lol. I have heard of people just using crumpled up paper for hides, snakes really don't care what it looks like as long as it makes them feel secure.
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