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Something new hatched??

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  • 07-15-2012, 11:54 AM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Something new hatched??
    [IMG]C:\Users\chef\Desktop\clutch1507.jpg[/IMG]

    Hi at All!

    Today something hatched in our breeding that we cannot explain...... we breed a desertmoyave to a spider female and hatched the animals on the picture???

    Pls help and write what it can be....

    Thanks

    Christian / CBE
  • 07-15-2012, 11:55 AM
    jbean7916
    Pic isnt showing for me

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  • 07-15-2012, 11:56 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Your picture didn't post.
  • 07-15-2012, 11:59 AM
    jcoylesr76
    you will need to load it into photobucket or somethings, i do not think direct links from your comp will work.
  • 07-15-2012, 12:03 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
  • 07-15-2012, 12:07 PM
    Chuckels
    Wow.

    Paradox our something? Almost looks like the coloring couldn't make it's mind up. Like a Splash Color Pattern or something.

    Very gorgeous none the less.

    Trey

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  • 07-15-2012, 12:07 PM
    joebad976
    Pretty Cool....

    I am not sure what happened but hopefully it is something genetic and a male if the desert gene is in play.
  • 07-15-2012, 03:56 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joebad976 View Post
    Pretty Cool....

    I am not sure what happened but hopefully it is something genetic and a male if the desert gene is in play.

    we also hope, but it is very curious......
  • 07-15-2012, 03:59 PM
    Andybill
    That is rad! Maybe its a desert mojave spider and the combination just does something crazy! I hope its a male so you got another sweet project!
  • 07-15-2012, 04:51 PM
    Coleslaw007
    That's super cool. Make sure its tub is blue so it gets the idea of the gender he should be.

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  • 07-15-2012, 05:13 PM
    ktaylor89
    Wow thats awesome!!
  • 07-16-2012, 02:01 AM
    jcoylesr76
    Wow, that it insane, Congratz First of all. but please tell me your gonna keep that? i mean heck send it my way if you do not want to sit on it. i will prove it out and share the profits. LOL. seriously Awesome clutch you got there. (to me it almost looks like a lesser bee, without the bee in it????

    Edit to add: It looks like some one has some pastel in them to me, the 3 you shared looks like a normal Pastel, a super pastel, and god only know that the last one it, I do hope someone can help you out. Because to me you got an extra gene in something that just made WOW!!!!!!!!!
  • 07-16-2012, 03:49 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    yes, and the best is that 2 snakes are not out of the eggs , I think they will hatch tomorow, than I will send a pic of the whole clutch......
  • 07-17-2012, 02:59 AM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...lutch1507a.jpg
    hi,
    now the last 2 snakes hatched, here a pic of the whole clutch. Pls write what you mean....


    thanks

    christian / CBE

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...lutch1507a.jpg
  • 07-17-2012, 05:05 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColdBloodEvolution View Post
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...lutch1507a.jpg
    hi,
    now the last 2 snakes hatched, here a pic of the whole clutch. Pls write what you mean....


    thanks

    christian / CBE

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...lutch1507a.jpg

    They all have Pastel in them,...I don't see anything that looks Desert...Do you have pics of the parents?

    Do you have a Pastel/Super Pastel Combo male you could have put in once by accident?
  • 07-17-2012, 05:22 AM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Hi Jon,

    the only that is possible, that the spider female was also paired py a firefly male.

    I think it is the result of that both males, the desert moyave and the firefly are the fathers.

    But the one with the spider pattern is much brighter that the other and the darker one is definitly no bumblebee......

    also I do not know what are the normal looking.... they have heads like a phantom/mystic.......

    and the 5 animals I cannot explain, it could be a desert moyave spider and the desert makes the curious colour and pattern of the snake, but it looks different to the one of Proexotics......


    christian / CBE
  • 07-17-2012, 05:38 AM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    here is the pic of the parents....


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...507parents.jpg
  • 07-18-2012, 02:39 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    has noboby an idea??
  • 07-18-2012, 02:59 PM
    Wes
    The Mojave father looks like it has something else going on with it to me.
  • 07-18-2012, 03:01 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    it is a desertmoyave male....
  • 07-18-2012, 03:08 PM
    Wes
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColdBloodEvolution View Post
    it is a desertmoyave male....

    Sorry, must have misread that.
  • 07-18-2012, 04:18 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Maybe the Firefly sired and it's a Firefly Mojave or Superfly Mojave.
  • 07-18-2012, 04:35 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Jordan,

    the female was a spider and the two males were a desertmoyave and a firefly...... so it is not possible to get a fire / moyave combination.....
  • 07-18-2012, 04:39 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColdBloodEvolution View Post
    Jordan,

    the female was a spider and the two males were a desertmoyave and a firefly...... so it is not possible to get a fire / moyave combination.....

    Sorry...I misread. Maybe a Fire pastel spider?
  • 07-18-2012, 04:45 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    I think that one of the two animals with the clear spider pattern is a firfly spider, but what are the others? and what is the currious one?
  • 07-18-2012, 08:46 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    I don't really see desert in the clutch either...but it is a really interesting snake.
  • 07-19-2012, 02:39 AM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    I also do not see the desert gene, but the firefly male was also proven out last year by a normal female, and the clutch was 2fireflys, 1 fire, 1 pastel.

    So I think that the spider female must carry a sencound gene that I do not see.....
  • 07-19-2012, 04:47 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Thats really cool! The far right one looks to be a firefly bee. The one in the middle a fire bee most likely (not enough pink to be a bumblebee?) The coolest one is really a mystery though. I don't think the mojo/desert sired any of them. The coolest one has a few dots on its head which says it has spider in it but why the crazy pattern? And so light?

    I'd keep it for sure no matter what the sex, and try to figure it out later by breeding.
  • 07-19-2012, 03:26 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    Thanks for answer,
    I also think that the 2 animals with the clear spider patern are a fire pastel spider and a fire spider ( but looks different to the other fire spiders on the web).

    The mystery one I cannot explain, also the two common looking I do not know, they seem to have a phantom /mystic head.......But the pattern is different???

    But mybee it will bring some news when the animals shed.....
  • 07-25-2012, 03:14 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Update
    Hi at All!

    Finaly all babys shed and here are the pics.

    Can somebody try to identify the animals?

    Thanks
    Christian / CBE

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...507b_thumb.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...507c_thumb.jpg
  • 07-25-2012, 05:17 PM
    Solarsoldier001
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColdBloodEvolution View Post
    Hi at All!

    Finaly all babys shed and here are the pics.

    Can somebody try to identify the animals?

    Thanks
    Christian / CBE

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...507b_thumb.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...507c_thumb.jpg

    Looks to me like two bumblebees and two pastels. The single snake I have no clue


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  • 07-26-2012, 09:12 AM
    naturesbeautybreeder
    Maybe the spider is a black pastel spider I have seen it befor where the spider was sold as a normal spider and turned out to be a black bee and the odd ball is a black pastel spider fire fly
  • 07-29-2012, 01:02 PM
    ColdBloodEvolution
    Re: Something new hatched??
    This could be possible, but the spider female looks as a normal spider......
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