is this a bumblebee ?

this lil guy is on craigslist for a great deal but im not very good with spiders and bumblebees and i certainly can not tell the difference between a spider and a low quality bumble bee but here is the pic i think :P




http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w.../bumblebee.jpg


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http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w.../bumblebee.jpg

The one on the right is a bumble bee, the one on the left is a pastel


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Looks like a very browned out bumblebee to me.

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i missed a great deal on that 500 gram female pastel for 90$ and the only reason it was that price is because he thought the going price for a pastel was about 120 dollars :( i almost cried

I would say it is a Bumblebee on the right

how can you tell the difference between a low quality/browned out bumblebee and a spider

I don't have a spider to show you for comparison, but you can see the yellow on the underside a bit, in the one in your picture. And their head is lighter with markings, that is my bee in my avatar, see her head? Here is a picture of her too
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefdc411-7f74-863b.jpg
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Originally Posted by varnoid

how can you tell the difference between a low quality/browned out bumblebee and a spider

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Look at the head. Bumblebee heads will be faded not brown.

i wish the guy i am getting was thet pretty :( haha but still a bee, anddd if you click on that picture you can deffinatley tell that the head is faded

does anyone think that it "could " be just a spider ?

That snake on the right is 100% a bee. Definetly not a spider

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Originally Posted by mike41793

that snake on the right is 100% a bee. Definetly not a spider

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If it was just a Spider, I'd pick it up. It'd be a nice Spider.

Nope, no spider. It's a bee. Just a browned out one.

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I agree. Definitely a bee.

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i wish the guy i am getting was thet pretty :( haha but still a bee, anddd if you click on that picture you can deffinatley tell that the head is faded

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x2. If you look at the head of the snake on the right you can definitely see the slight fading. Classic bee. If you look at pictures of spiders you won't see any fading at all. Good looking snake.

here is my new boy he is 342 grams for 300$

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...k/100B0760.jpg

and here is my other pick up from the same trip

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...k/100_0759.jpg

2 white chinchillas for 200$

Congrats on your new additions. That seems a bit pricey for a bee that is that small, male, and that browned out already though......

Looks like he could use a few rats too.

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ehh i thought it was a fair deal, i know the snakes lineage and he was born and raised at my work and he recently bought him for 489 and he is a pretty nice bee just bad pics but he isnt super impressive either and he came with a 30 gal long :P

The bee is on the right he is just browned out, but a bee for sure the pastel gene lightens the pattern on the head, so that is the first thing you want to look at. Second do you see the tan color on the back that is typical pastel gene browning out regular spiders are darker than that.


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Price is just fine for that quality to, I paid 500 shipped for my boy I'll show picks some time when I figure all that out, but he almost has no brown at all and he is around 600 grams.


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Yes you have yourself a bumblebee on the right - 100% positive. The head pattern is a dead give away.

Pastel left, Bee right.

The color is simply wrong for a spider. Even the best spiders will be golden yellow, not that grayish faded tone. Lesser quality spiders will be just plain brown.