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  • 07-03-2012, 09:19 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Would you feed these mice?
    I went to Pratts, a local feed store to pick up a couple mouse hoppers for my young snakes who will only take them a week or so ago and all of their mouse hoppers seemed very bloated, with big round bellies. None of their adults looked this way. I thought it could be from them still nursing so I purchased a couple and didn't feed them to my snakes to see if they got less bloated in a few days.

    Its been over a week and they both still seem very swollen, maybe slightly less so. I don't know if it could be related to parasites or if they're just fat? They're definitely too young to be pregnant and both males and females were all this way.

    Should I cull these off and never buy from there again or do you think they're safe to feed?
    If its helpful, their bellies do not feel squishy, they're firm if anything.

    Crappy cell phone pics.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-9a15-55b2.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-9a2d-9549.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-9a3f-60b8.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-9a59-1768.jpg

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  • 07-03-2012, 09:37 PM
    youbeyouibei
    Mega colon, maybe? I can't tell very well but the one looks to be female and could be pregnant to explain why she's that big. That's crazy that those are MICE! Look like small rats at that size, lol! Almost look like retired breeders from the size/condition of their bodies/fur. I don't know on that one, sorry. I breed Norways and have no experience with mice other than the occasional purchase of them as feeders. Good luck and hopefully someone else chimes in.
  • 07-03-2012, 09:43 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Those are not hopper mice or if they are the person has VERY small hands :8:

    This is a hopper

    http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...pers15days.jpg

    What you seem to have are adults and while it's hard to tell with the quality of the pics, looks to me like you have pregnant females (and again they do not look too young to be pregnant given the size), females and males are sexually matures at 4 weeks.
  • 07-03-2012, 09:46 PM
    DooLittle
    Wow, those are big mice. Looks pregnant possibly to me too.

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  • 07-03-2012, 09:48 PM
    Wyldrose
    They are both females and both look very pregnate to me. The black one is hard to see the genitls, but it has nipples. Only female mice have nipples, that is probley the easiest way to sex them. Mice can become pregnate at 6 weeks old.

    If you need pinkys then I'd hold on to them and let them have their babies. Like the others said they are way bigger then a hopper.
  • 07-03-2012, 10:05 PM
    Coleslaw007
    I know they look big in the pics, they're actually not as big as they look. They have gotten bigger in the approximately 2 weeks I've had them but they were still nursing when I got them and looked just as, if not more bloated. The thing that concerns me is that all the hoppers there, male and female had that same look. I guess I just happened to grab females.

    They could possibly be pregnant now but they are still quite young. I've raised a lot of mice so I know they can get pregnant young but honestly I don't think these guys are pregnant. They do look pregnant I'll admit.

    Could it be parasites if they aren't pregnant?

    I DO have very small hands actually lol, I'm a tiny person. Boyfriend is too.

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  • 07-03-2012, 10:10 PM
    Coleslaw007
    When I get back home I'll take pics from above and next to an adult mouse. These pics do make them look huge.

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  • 07-03-2012, 10:31 PM
    SquamishSerpents
    At first glance, I thought they were rats as well. I'm not sure your hands could make them look as big as they look in these photos, lol!

    What is their weight (in grams?)
  • 07-03-2012, 10:34 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    At first glance, I thought they were rats as well. I'm not sure your hands could make them look as big as they look in these photos, lol!

    What is their weight (in grams?)

    Hmm hadn't weighed them, a great idea! Will do that when I get home.

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  • 07-03-2012, 11:35 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Okay weighed them. The grey one is 13 grams, black 16. They've gotten a lot bigger since first got them but the part that concerns me is that they were just as round bellied when I got them as were all the other hoppers in the bins. Next to an adult mouse: please disregard dirty rat shed, we were cleaninghttp://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-b9d6-aa3f.jpg

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  • 07-03-2012, 11:42 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coleslaw007 View Post
    Okay weighed them. The grey one is 13 grams, black 16. They've gotten a lot bigger since first got them but the part that concerns me is that they were just as round bellied when I got them as were all the other hoppers in the bins. Next to an adult mouse: please disregard dirty rat shed, we were cleaninghttp://img.tapatalk.com/617c795b-b9d6-aa3f.jpg

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    Is it just me or does that white aldut mouse in this pic look kinda big too?

    Are these mice like XXX-L jumbo mice lol?
  • 07-03-2012, 11:48 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Lmao no for some reason they all just look huge in these pics. In real life they're not all that big. Is this what they mean when they say the camera adds 20 lbs or something?

    Or it could be my tiny little elf hands. No wait, that's Brandan's tiny little elf hand. We need big people for mouse photos apparently.

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  • 07-04-2012, 12:32 AM
    DooLittle
    I don't know, they still look huge. I'm still going for preggers...

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  • 07-04-2012, 12:41 AM
    Coleslaw007
    Lol Okie doke

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  • 07-05-2012, 01:22 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Would you feed these mice?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Those are not hopper mice or if they are the person has VERY small hands :8:

    That person does have very small hands LOL they both do actually, they are like mini people :rofl:


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    At first glance, I thought they were rats as well. I'm not sure your hands could make them look as big as they look in these photos, lol!

    You should see them in real life :P trust me they are small peoples lol and those are hoppers and the white mouse isnt really that big, I mess with him all the time lol
  • 07-05-2012, 01:38 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Re: Would you feed these mice?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    That person does have very small hands LOL they both do actually, they are like mini people :rofl


    Shush yer face. :rolleyes:


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pookie! View Post
    You should see them in real life :P trust me they are small peoples lol and those are hoppers and the white mouse isnt really that big, I mess with him all the time lol

    Thanks for vouching. :)
  • 07-05-2012, 01:41 PM
    pookie!
    Re: Would you feed these mice?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coleslaw007 View Post
    Shush yer face. :rolleyes:




    Thanks for vouching. :)

    Lol well I am telling the truth! :D

    No prob, they do look huge in these pictures if the people looking have never met you or Brandan.
  • 07-05-2012, 01:43 PM
    SRMD
    I once had a hamster and he had a hard belly and looked big and he died of a tuma, not sure if its the same but just thought i would say :)
  • 07-05-2012, 04:08 PM
    Coleslaw007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    I once had a hamster and he had a hard belly and looked big and he died of a tuma, not sure if its the same but just thought i would say :)

    Yea rodents seem very cancer prone. The rat I had as a pet when I was 5 or 6 and the first I ever had, Lilah eventually died of a tumor. She lived to be around 7 which is supposed to be impossible for a rat but she did it. It started as a hard mass on her lower abdomen and slowly grew into a pink fleshy round mass about the size of a golf ball. She was a petite ready so that was nearly half the size of her whole body. I was little and my mom didn't have the money to bring her to the vet but it really didn't appear to cause her any pain. It did make it a little hard for her to get around toward the end cuz it was so big though. She was an awesome rat and I loved her.

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