Jaguar Boa

So guys... I think I can provide some clarity on the Jaguar Gene. I crossed my Pastel Albino female with my low expression Jaguar female. The Jaguar female is from Frank Martin's stock and was a possible Het Albino. She didn't prove out the as Albino, but did provide some clarity regarding the Jaguar gene. I purposely used the low expression female to see what visuals the offspring show. The mother is from a litter of very abbreant and visual Jaguars with reverse stripes up to 3/4 down thier bodies.


The genetics of the Jaguar morph have not yet been completely proven, but all of the evidence and my particular breeding points toward this being a co-dominant trait (or one can argue incomplete dominance just as easily), with the Jaguar with Rosettes Saddles being the heterozygous form, and the Jaguars with reverse stripes in addition to the Rosettes being the homozygous, or super, form.

I’ve asked many well known breeders and have received conflicting reports. Mark the Boamaster agrees with me that it is a co-dom or at the very least an incomplete dominance. He is well into his Jaguar project and has crossed it with other morphs to prove it out. At the same rate, Jimi from JimiSnakes believes they are het. One of the first folks to dive into the Jaguar projects after Frank Martin was Andy Federico. Andy also concurs that the Reverse strip is heterozygous but the Jaguar gene is visible (saddles) in the first breeding.


Tell me what you guys think.

I think I'd like to see some pics..... ;)

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Originally Posted by Alexiconartist

I crossed my Pastel Albino female with my low expression Jaguar female.


Tell me what you guys think.

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Female X Female = :weirdface

I think there is a WW chromosome missing from that equation somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Alexiconartist

I crossed my Pastel Albino female with my low expression Jaguar female.

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Yaaaaa…… no you didn't:P

Jags!!!!


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Yes please tell us how you breed your "Pastel Albino female with my low expression Jaguar female"? :cool:

Jags!


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Originally Posted by Alexiconartist

Jags!


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So Jags can breed Female to Female? Really?

Jags!


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Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Either someone explain to me how "Jags" can breed "Female" to "Female" or explain to him how that cant work. Man I don't know how old you are, but if your raising and breeding snakes....hopefully someone has told you about the "Birds and the Bees"!

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Originally Posted by Vypyrz

Female X Female = :weirdface

I think there is a WW chromosome missing from that equation somewhere...

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Maybe they're just like clown fish and they switch gender in order to have babies. You never know!! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by pythonminion

Maybe they're just like clown fish and they switch gender in order to have babies. You never know!! :rolleyes:

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Cool!!!!! I want One!!!!!! :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by ROACH

Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Either someone explain to me how "Jags" can breed "Female" to "Female" or explain to him how that cant work. Man I don't know how old you are, but if your raising and breeding snakes....hopefully someone has told you about the "Birds and the Bees"!

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I'm guessing the female x female thing was just a typo lmao. Back to the point of the thread. I'm more interested in someone explaining what the jag gene is, and based on the picture provided by the OP why any one would care about it? Looks like a normal boa to me. Pattern is a little abearnet but I don't see anything special about it.

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Originally Posted by jason_ladouceur

I'm guessing the female x female thing was just a typo lmao. Back to the point of the thread. I'm more interested in someone explaining what the jag gene is, and based on the picture provided by the OP why any one would care about it? Looks like a normal boa to me. Pattern is a little abearnet but I don't see anything special about it.

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Yes Im sure it was a typo also, but when we try to ask him about it....all he seems to answer with is "JAGS". Hell maybe he did try to breed a Female to another Female, I dont know.

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Originally Posted by ROACH

Yes Im sure it was a typo also, but when we try to ask him about it....all he seems to answer with is "JAGS". Hell maybe he did try to breed a Female to another Female, I dont know.

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TRANSEXUAL SNAKES cuz, you know, JAGS!
Haha, I can't help but to think of that awkward derpy moment where someone does a pairing expecting two males or two females to breed and they only figure out the correct genders later.

I'm sure we can make an extreme advertisement out of this...

BILLY MAYS HERE WITH THE WONDERFUL JAGUAR BOA, A BOA SO FINE ITS HERMAPHRODITIC. ONLY HAVE TWO BOAS? PAIR THEM TOGETHER TO MAKE BABIES!!! UH OH, WHAT IF THEY'RE BOTH FEMALES? WELL NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY!!! WITH THE NEW JAG BOA, NOW YOU CAN PAIR TWO FEMALES AND STILL MAKE BABIES! THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS, PAIR TWO FEMALES AND STILL GET BABIES!! ONLY HAVE TWO MALE BOAS? WELL WORRY NO MORE!! OUR BOAS ARE SO AMAZING THAT IF YOU PUT TWO MALES TOGETHER, THEY STILL MAKE BABIES!! THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR VERY OWN BOA BABIES AT HOME WITH OUR NEW HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE BOAS!! BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!! AND NOW IF YOU BUY OUR PRODUCT TODAY, YOU CAN GET NOT ONE, BUT TWO AMAZING PAIRS OF THE HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE JAGUAR BOA FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF ONLY ONE PAIR OF THE AMAZING HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE BOAS!!

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Originally Posted by pythonminion

TRANSEXUAL SNAKES cuz, you know, JAGS!
Haha, I can't help but to think of that awkward derpy moment where someone does a pairing expecting two males or two females to breed and they only figure out the correct genders later.

I'm sure we can make an extreme advertisement out of this...

BILLY MAYS HERE WITH THE WONDERFUL JAGUAR BOA, A BOA SO FINE ITS HERMAPHRODITIC. ONLY HAVE TWO BOAS? PAIR THEM TOGETHER TO MAKE BABIES!!! UH OH, WHAT IF THEY'RE BOTH FEMALES? WELL NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY!!! WITH THE NEW JAG BOA, NOW YOU CAN PAIR TWO FEMALES AND STILL MAKE BABIES! THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS, PAIR TWO FEMALES AND STILL GET BABIES!! ONLY HAVE TWO MALE BOAS? WELL WORRY NO MORE!! OUR BOAS ARE SO AMAZING THAT IF YOU PUT TWO MALES TOGETHER, THEY STILL MAKE BABIES!! THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR VERY OWN BOA BABIES AT HOME WITH OUR NEW HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE BOAS!! BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!! AND NOW IF YOU BUY OUR PRODUCT TODAY, YOU CAN GET NOT ONE, BUT TWO AMAZING PAIRS OF THE HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE JAGUAR BOA FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF ONLY ONE PAIR OF THE AMAZING HERMAPHRODITIC MALE FEMALE SHEMALE BOAS!!

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:rofl: :clap:

not sure why this hasn't shown up as spamming yet….do we get a free pass from using a shortened animal name???

RHINOS!!!

Frankly, I think the OP's username says it all...... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

Frankly, I think the OP's username says it all...... :rolleyes:

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Oh well poop, why didn't I see that. haha

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Dude...your still not telling us how you breed a FEMALE to a FEMALE? And don't just answer with "JAGS", that don't mean anything to us.

He's answering "Jaguar boa" in several other threads too. Can you say "troll"........ :ignore:

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