Super Champagne - post shed

The Super Champagne shed today and here's an updated picture. She is pretty neat, kind of translucent, if you look closely you can see veins, etc. I think that's giving her the pinkish look. It's difficult to get a good picture as some came out more yellow, or too pink. I think this picture shows her look the best.

She is very shy and constantly tucking her head in. Definitely not 100% but she seems much stronger now.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...SuperChamp.jpg

Wow she's hot. So is she gonna stay that pink? Although, she is the first so only time will tell.

She is smocking, can't wait to see her with some size :gj:

She looks awesome! Congrats! Keep us posted as she progress.

What a beautiful animal!! How did you produce something like that?? I'm still new to this whole thing. I thought the champagne gene was a dominant gene and you could not make a 'super' version of a dominant gene. For example, I've never heard of a 'super spider'. Maybe one exists, but like I said, I'm still trying to figure out the whole genetic thing.

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Originally Posted by Funke910

What a beautiful animal!! How did you produce something like that?? I'm still new to this whole thing. I thought the champagne gene was a dominant gene and you could not make a 'super' version of a dominant gene. For example, I've never heard of a 'super spider'. Maybe one exists, but like I said, I'm still trying to figure out the whole genetic thing.

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Well because there is a super, it is actually a co-dominant. It was known to not be recessive, but because there hadn't been a super it was deemed dominant. Now, it is proven co-dominant.

That snake is HOT!!!:bow:

:banana::O:banana:
I am
In awe
And so FREAKING JEALOUS.

-grabby hands-

Jason want, Jason hope color stay forever. :D

Man, I can't wait to see her with a few hundred more grams on her! I already want a BEL, a super black pastel and now I need a super champagne to have an all pink snake to go with my all white and all black snakes!

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Way cool! It will be interesting to see how she changes as she grows! keep us posted we gotta know how she holds the pink! :gj:

DANG. I sure hope she gets up to 100%.

Thanks everyone!!

She's truly ugly. I think you should lend her to me so she can grow up with my super cinny male that looks like a turd.:gj:

Beautiful snake though and congratulations. I hope she continues to do well for you and get's over her shyness!

She looks great! Has she eaten for you yet?

Amazing snake Dave keep up the good work :gj:

Im really excited to see how this one progress. Really cool! :gj:

keep us up to date on this one. I hope to see adult pics down the line

Thanks!

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She looks great! Has she eaten for you yet?

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I haven't even tried yet as she only just shed, I'll try her next week.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...rChampfe-1.jpg

Dave, she is beautiful. Can you do a video on her?

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Dave, she is beautiful. Can you do a video on her?

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Thanks! I have never done a video but I probably will in a few weeks. I want to get a few meals in her and get her established. She is very flighty and stressed, I'm almost afraid to mess with her too much. I hope some time will settle her down and I'll feel better when she eats, etc. She seems to be getting stronger but wonkier at the same time.

Absolutely stunning!

Wow a pink snake :bounce: ... she is truly gorgeous. Congratulations on breeding such a cool looking animal!

It makes me want some Cotton Candy :)

Ummm I just saw the pairing that it came out of, are you sure that is a super champagne and not a super champagne hypo? Whatever it is, it is an incredible snake!

Unfortunately, the Super Champ didn't make it, she was weak from the beginning and passed on Thursday.

that sucks... sorry for your loss. she was a beauty.:(

oh no, that sucks :tears: sorry for your lost

Fantastic!! I don't know how it's possible but she looks even better after the shed! :gj:

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Unfortunately, the Super Champ didn't make it, she was weak from the beginning and passed on Thursday.

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So sorry for your loss! She was a little beauty.

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Was such a beautiful snake, I'm sorry you lost her.

On a personal note, I would love to see how enchi effects that.

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Unfortunately, the Super Champ didn't make it, she was weak from the beginning and passed on Thursday.

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Just read this.
So sorry for the loss of this one.

Oh...I'm so sorry. That's terrible. Really wanted to see her all grown up :( If I may ask, what did you mean by "she gets wonkier everyday"? Like a spider wobble?

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Sorry about that but thanks so much for keeping us informed. This info will help others make informed decisions about breeding champagne to champagne. Perhaps others could have published that info before but glad that you stepped up and made it available now.

Thanks everyone!

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Oh...I'm so sorry. That's terrible. Really wanted to see her all grown up :( If I may ask, what did you mean by "she gets wonkier everyday"? Like a spider wobble?

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It wasn't like a spider wobble but something neuro was going on. When she was weak she seemed somewhat normal (besides the weakness). As she got stronger she seemed overly stressed once distubed. She would tuck her head almost in a panic mode.

So sorry Dave, thanks for keeping us informed on the outcome of what I am sure was a very disappointing experience.

Im surprised the question wasnt asked. Do you think the super champ didnt make it because of its genetics? Considering this is the only sample i think it is unfair to assume that it was the pairing that doomed this snake. I understand it may not be ethical to pair champs again but in the name of science i think it may be neccessary to give it another go and try to prove the degree of lethality associated with this combo.
Sorry for your loss. Id just hate to this combo be dismissed as possible because of the loss of one specimen to unknown causes.
Just speaking strictly scientifically.

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Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper

Im surprised the question wasnt asked. Do you think the super champ didnt make it because of its genetics? Considering this is the only sample i think it is unfair to assume that it was the pairing that doomed this snake. I understand it may not be ethical to pair champs again but in the name of science i think it may be neccessary to give it another go and try to prove the degree of lethality associated with this combo.
Sorry for your loss. Id just hate to this combo be dismissed as possible because of the loss of one specimen to unknown causes.
Just speaking strictly scientifically.

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I think it's the genetics as I've never seen a ball python that acted like this one; however, it could of been bad luck. I know of another breeder with a champ x champ clutch incubating and there are probably more. Hopefully, we'll know more in the next few months.

I hope the next breeder with this combo will give us as much info as you did. Sorry for your loss, that was an amazing animal!