Question about HET Piebald

i just found an add for a 1 year old HET Piebald for a "rehoming fee" of $50.00. i am getting it either way HET or not. but what i need to know is .......is there anything that i should look for?

By definition an animal that is het (Heterozygous Recessive) is visually no different from a normal animal.

Some people say that there are some "markers" that may help Identify Het Pieds, but there is no way to tell for sure just by looking at the snake. You need to either know what the parents were, or breed it to a visual (or another het) pied.

What % het is this Bp being sold as? (50%, 66%, or 100% het)

For one thing I'd check over the animal for mites. Also I'm not sure if you have an established collection already but proper quarantine is a must if you do. Is this a Craiglist ad? If so be careful with the whole het thing unless it comes with paperwork from a reputable breeder. Good luck.

thats a big 10-4 on the mites. and it is a CL add. would breeding with a normal show PIED results? and i do have a collection, a small one, but its a start. Lol

just 3 normals, a baby, and 2 adults

If I have genetics right, you'd have to pair with a het piebald or a visual pied to prove him/her out

he did not say the %, i will ask lots of questions. obviously if it is poor health i want to know why as well as look at the rest of his/her collection

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Originally Posted by jon7

thats a big 10-4 on the mites. and it is a CL add. would breeding with a normal show PIED results? and i do have a collection, a small one, but its a start. Lol

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No

Here are the only ways to produce a visual pied from a het pied (if this one even is a het)

Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

Is it a female?

it is a male. i think i will still get him one way or another. lol

Yeah i have a female that is het pied and I really dont see much of a difference. I am not a believer of hets showing markers but that could just be the fact that I am still fairly new to this too...

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Originally Posted by jon7

thats a big 10-4 on the mites. and it is a CL add. would breeding with a normal show PIED results? and i do have a collection, a small one, but its a start. Lol

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Not it will no you would need to breed him to a het pied female to the very least.

Additionally do yourself a favor if you are looking to purchase a het given how affordable het pieds have become, purchase it from a reputable breeder and not from CL, this might save you time and disappointment in the future.

since it is recessive, breeding with a normal would give you I think 25% hets.

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Originally Posted by ChuckSM

since it is recessive, breeding with a normal would give you I think 25% hets.

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no, it would be 50%

Genetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png

Ok guys, so i just got the "HET pied" home. As i was looking at him i noticed some "markers", first, the clover shaped pattern on his head, alot of speckles on his belly as well as a pinkish color, he just shed (6/15) so i know that its not the start of a shed cycle, and he is a little darker then normal. He is in great health. The husbandry was all proper.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Not it will no you would need to breed him to a het pied female to the very least.

Additionally do yourself a favor if you are looking to purchase a het given how affordable het pieds have become, purchase it from a reputable breeder and not from CL, this might save you time and disappointment in the future.

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I will never be disappointed in a snake, otger then a person neglecting it. Lol. I dont really care if it is "HET" or not. Its a good looking snake either way. Lol

Post pics! Everyone likes playing the het pied guessing game...

Head, body, belly pattern...and clear pics.

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

Post pics! Everyone likes playing the het pied guessing game...

Head, body, belly pattern...and clear pics.

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It is fun!!! But, i dont know why this site wont let me post any pics, i tried. Lol

You can't just upload them... You need to host the pictures on a site like photobucket first.

This thread goes over the process step by step.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...with-pictures)

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

You can't just upload them... You need to host the pictures on a site like photobucket first.

This thread goes over the process step by step.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...with-pictures)

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Good lookin out man. I will get pics up ASAP.

Hey Jon, congrats on your new addition, and welcome to the forum :) We are located very close to you (In Oly), and are more than happy to help out if you have any questions or need a hand!

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

Hey Jon, congrats on your new addition, and welcome to the forum :) We are located very close to you (In Oly), and are more than happy to help out if you have any questions or need a hand!

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Highly recommended by yours truly, they're extremely helpful! :gj:

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Originally Posted by Anatopism

Hey Jon, congrats on your new addition, and welcome to the forum :) We are located very close to you (In Oly), and are more than happy to help out if you have any questions or need a hand!

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i will be getting in touch with you guys soon! gonna need some new supplies as the collection is growing. what kind of services do you offer?

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Originally Posted by jon7

i will be getting in touch with you guys soon! gonna need some new supplies as the collection is growing. what kind of services do you offer?

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They breed snakes bro! lol :)

like we talked about earlier, you make a post, and your like " WHAT THE HELL DID I SAY THAT FOR" Lol. that was one of those times. All of a sudden it hit me. hahaha. now i rreally feel like a moron.

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i will be getting in touch with you guys soon! gonna need some new supplies as the collection is growing. what kind of services do you offer?

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Breeding snakes, and once our rat problem is figured put, we have been trading rats/feeders or help cleaning snakes/rats. Mostly, if you need help, we will help if able :)

ok guys and gals, I finally got the Damn camera and computer to work proper, so now here are the long awaited pics of my collection. Including the HET Pied

My HET Pied, DB Cooper
http://<a href="http://s1252.photobu...tobucket"></a>.

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0401.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0401.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0402.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0402.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0404.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0404.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

My little girl Con

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0408.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0408.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0409.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0409.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0410.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0410.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0411.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0411.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

My big girl Bonnie (2700 Grams)

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0413.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0413.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0414.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0414.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0415.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0415.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

The bump on her neck

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0416.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0416.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0418.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0418.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

My big guy Clyde

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0419.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0419.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/?action=view&amp;current=DSCF0420.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/jon710/DSCF0420.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

ok so now you all know i am a newbie at the image sharing thing. Lol

You need to copy the individual pictures "IMG" codes... Then paste them into a post.

oh. Lol. i guess i sould have paid close attention to the instruction thread. hahaha.

my HET Pied

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0391.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0399.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0402.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0404.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0405.jpg

my little girl Con

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0408.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0409.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0410.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0411.jpg

my big girl Bonnie

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0413.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0414.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0415.jpg

the lump on her neck

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0416.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0418.jpg

my big guy in mid-shed Clyde

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0419.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF0420.jpg

Yeah I just posted a pic for the first time EVER of my cinnie girl on another thread and it took me a half hour but it came out alright! I was going back and forth between the instructional thread and photobucket and the thread I was trying to post to. You will get the hang of it....

what a pain in the ass!!! Lol. woth it though.