Bumblebee and lemon blast male/female

I am going to get a lemon blast and bumblebee pair, and was wondering if I should get a male bumble bee and a female lemon blast or a male lemon blast and female bumble bee? Thanks

Do you plan on making killerblasts?

I would go bumblebee female, wait a year, then get a lemonblast male :gj:.

Since you'll have all the extra money saved up, I would get another female :).

If your getting them to pair to each other it really doesn't matter, which is the male or female.
If you actually have plans of breeding the male to other females I'd say make the male the lemon blast, only cause you'll be able to pass the pinstripe gene around a bit more, since pinstripes seem to be not entirely as common as spiders.

Well I am planning on getting them to breed to each other, but i also have an albino male as well that I want to eventually breed them to. I also am getting a het albino pinstripe female. Which morph would go best with an albino? Would I get killer bees by breeding lemon blast to bumblebee?

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Originally Posted by AznInvasion1

Well I am planning on getting them to breed to each other, but i also have an albino male as well that I want to eventually breed them to. I also am getting a het albino pinstripe female. Which morph would go best with an albino? Would I get killer bees by breeding lemon blast to bumblebee?

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Getting a het albino pin sounds like a good plan.

I wouldn't breed the albino to the bumblebee, but thats because im too impatient to deal with hets ^_^.

Here ya go:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

This will help answer both your questions. Yes you can get a killerbee from lemonblast x bumblebee. What albino combos do YOU like? Check out the morph list on that website. I personally prefer lavender albino. Every other albino combo is just okay to me. Albino pins are still pretty cool though :gj:.

A little off topic, but I have a female lemon pastel and plan on breeding her to a male bumble bee, what could I possibly get? Odds of a killer bee? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by SunnyD

A little off topic, but I have a female lemon pastel and plan on breeding her to a male bumble bee, what could I possibly get? Odds of a killer bee? Thanks!

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worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

one thing to consider: pinstripe has no genetically caused health issues and a healthy super-form appears to exist and to be proven out, according to some. Spider has genetically caused health issues (wobble, neuro) and the super-form is lethal at a very young age or mysteriously absent.

"Health issuse" negative

They can get a tad wobbly when excited but as long as they eat, drink and shed they are just like any other snake.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...AL-take-a-look

several big breeders have said they come out fine and it is a myth

I have a queen bee who shows some sign of the spider gene but doesn't wobble to bad nothing like a normal spider. He hasn't ever had any problems eating or drinking.

i mean, its not a really serious health issue, but in extreme cases BPs with the spider gene strike enclosure walls when trying to strike their food, corcscrew when you handle them, and sometimes rest and sleep belly-up. But it is a health issue, and has never been "debunked" or disproven.

i personally stay away from the spider gene. But i have no problem with people that dont. After all, extremely few snakes have the wobble so bad that you could argue that they suffer, and it doesnt impact life expectancy.

about the linked thread:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...AL-take-a-look
it turned out the person making these claims is some kind of fraud who goes around claiming to have a warehouse full of snakes and a massive breeding operation, but that doesnt seem to be true. The thread started in 2009, and you can read how it all unravels over the years. So the whole thing about proving out 150 spiders by breeding them, it never happened i think. The super spider is still mysteriously absent, and the only well-known mechanism that could explain it biologically has a likely consequence: a 25% fertility drop when breeding spider to spider.