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  • 06-02-2012, 10:24 PM
    cowbully
    UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    I got a reptitherm UTH for my baby spider ball... now im a lil confused...I have one on the under side of my baby pastel and it keeps temps perfect.. but ive been reading up on UTH's..It says it is most effective on the side of the tank.. which is right??? maybe a vote...who puts it on the side vs. bottom..THANK YOU :banana:
  • 06-02-2012, 10:26 PM
    Trackstrong83
    Definitely bottom. Ball pythons need belly heat to digest their food, and prefer belly heat. (Not saying My BP has told me this, but it's what I've heard) :)
  • 06-02-2012, 10:28 PM
    DooLittle
    My vote is bottom, they need belly heat.

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  • 06-02-2012, 11:42 PM
    tigwelder84
    Bottom makes them digest and it hides it better than having a bulky heater hanging off the side of your enclosure
  • 06-02-2012, 11:46 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Bottom works better... Side mounting makes very little sense. Just make sure that it is regulated with a thermostat.
  • 06-02-2012, 11:47 PM
    mues155
    Re: UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trackstrong83 View Post
    Definitely bottom. Ball pythons need belly heat to digest their food, and prefer belly heat. (Not saying My BP has told me this, but it's what I've heard) :)

    x2
    You beat me to it!
  • 06-03-2012, 12:53 AM
    Kaorte
    I think the only place I have seen it suggested to be used on the side is on the actual pet store packaging.

    Use it on the bottom.
  • 06-03-2012, 12:58 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    it's called an Under Tank Heater for a reason.

    The packaging only suggests side mounting it if proper ventilation cannot be given when mounting it to the bottom... and a thermostat fixes that issue anyway (even without any ventilation)
  • 06-03-2012, 01:14 AM
    Daybreaker
    Bottom for belly heat
  • 06-03-2012, 01:21 AM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    it's called an Under Tank Heater for a reason.

    The packaging only suggests side mounting it if proper ventilation cannot be given when mounting it to the bottom... and a thermostat fixes that issue anyway (even without any ventilation)

    I'd still recommend at least a little bit of ventilation on the bottom though... Just as a preventative measure.
  • 06-03-2012, 01:28 AM
    pigfat
    Butt....I mean bottom!


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  • 06-03-2012, 01:31 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps View Post
    I'd still recommend at least a little bit of ventilation on the bottom though... Just as a preventative measure.

    I currently have 4 AP T8's and an AP T12 stacked together with flexwatt heating all of them... there is 0 gap in-between them but the thermostat probe is attached directly to the flexwatt (AP routes a slot for Thermostat Probes in the bottom of the cages) They have been set up this way for months without any issues at all.

    The reason for the gap is to prevent heat build up. But if your thermostat probe is attached directly to the UTH, any heat built up will be detected and power going to the UTh will be reduced, preventing heat buildup. In cages set up with the thermostat probe (or no thermostat :O) not attached to the UTH, then I agree that an air gap should be used.
  • 06-03-2012, 01:47 AM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    I currently have 4 AP T8's and an AP T12 stacked together with flexwatt heating all of them... there is 0 gap in-between them but the thermostat probe is attached directly to the flexwatt (AP routes a slot for Thermostat Probes in the bottom of the cages) They have been set up this way for months without any issues at all.

    The reason for the gap is to prevent heat build up. But if your thermostat probe is attached directly to the UTH, any heat built up will be detected and power going to the UTh will be reduced, preventing heat buildup. In cages set up with the thermostat probe (or no thermostat :O) not attached to the UTH, then I agree that an air gap should be used.

    I use the AP probe slots with flexwatt as well, but I still like to use plywood to create a 1/2" space between cages; in the unlikely event that a thermostat goes haywire or gets turned up too high, a small gap could mean the difference between life and death for my animals...
  • 06-03-2012, 10:52 AM
    kitedemon
    The hut pad comes with little rubber bumpers just use those. Belly heat is more efficient energy to heat wise. It is NOT required to digest food that is a myth! You will need a thermostat as well if you plan on using a tub I would recommend a proportional unit to eliminate swing you get with on/off units. You could also go with a custom enclosure and an on/off (thick bottom) is another option.
  • 06-03-2012, 11:01 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    On an efficiency standpoint (heat loss vs no heat loss) belly heat is the best placement, side or back heat is most efficient when used in an enclosed rack/and or room with very stable temps.

    As for the rest a matter of preference, my BP don't even have a hot spot in the summer ;) (not something I recommend to anyone either)
  • 06-03-2012, 11:50 AM
    dragonsong93
    Re: UTH Side or Bottom...Vote!!!
    I vote bottom, definitely!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    On an efficiency standpoint (heat loss vs no heat loss) belly heat is the best placement, side or back heat is most efficient when used in an enclosed rack/and or room with very stable temps.

    As for the rest a matter of preference, my BP don't even have a hot spot in the summer ;) (not something I recommend to anyone either)

    Sometimes in the summer the room gets so warm I do end up turning my reptiles' heat off too :oops:
  • 06-03-2012, 11:55 AM
    rabernet
    Belly heat. Heat rises, it doesn't travel horizontally.

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