Athena, my eyeless normal Update thread.

So, it's been a while since I posted pictures of her. I adopted her from Pat at Action Reptiles.

She eats like a horse, and is now well over 1000 grams.

Here she is in all her reduced pattern glory:

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She is very gentle and sweet, and is well on her way to being an ambassador snake for people who don't like snakes.

Gale

Awww...too cool! Thats a great job for a handicapped snake!! Thank you for not putting her down!

You know I think she's amazing Gale, thank you for the update and pictures! :love:

She's amazing and nice job of giving her a shot! 'Disabled' animals can make the best ambassadors because people are more fascinated by them. I have to admit, she is downright adorable. Almost like a snake that's constantly squinting. :)

Leigh,

You aren't the only person here who adores her. She has a lot of fans here and on Facebook as well. I remember when Pat posted pictures of her and the other hatchling who were hatched with deformities. I fell in love with her at first sight, and told Pat I'd be happy to give her a home.

Once she had eaten on her own a few times, Pat sent her to me, and I lost my heart the moment I unpacked her. She's always been a good eater, and she is always on the go. She is by far one of the most gentle of my snakes, and I will never give her up.

Gale

I like her and her reduced pattern!
Just curious: do you plan to breed her?

That is a question I've been asked many times. Under certain circumstances I might, but since there is a distinct possibility her deformity is genetic, I feel it isn't worth the risk. Not just to any potential offspring, but to her as well.

She certainly is a beautiful animal, and I have thought more than once I'd love to see her babies. But then I ask myself if I could deal with her babies being born with defects, maybe even having to put one down. The answer is no.

I have enough breeding animals to enjoy, and she will forever remain my pet/ambassador.

Gale

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That is a question I've been asked many times. Under certain circumstances I might, but since there is a distinct possibility her deformity is genetic, I feel it isn't worth the risk. Not just to any potential offspring, but to her as well.

She certainly is a beautiful animal, and I have thought more than once I'd love to see her babies. But then I ask myself if I could deal with her babies being born with defects, maybe even having to put one down. The answer is no.

I have enough breeding animals to enjoy, and she will forever remain my pet/ambassador.

Gale

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As i thought about it before i asked the question my train of thought followed a similar path. Her babies would probably be nice but it could be genetic so its probably not worth the risk. I think Ben Siegal has two eyeless bps, so maybe it is more than just a randomn occurence...?

I remember you posting about Athena, but have not seen her until now. I'm glad to see that she is doing so well. :gj:

She's absolutely gorgeous!! You are doing an awesome job with her :gj:

Ahhhh great update gale! Thanks so much. I love seeing other breeders have animals that they will forever be in their collections. I have a few myself that are just pets and will forever remain with me. Most of mine were rescues that I took in and rehabbed and then fell in love. I don't feel they deserve to be shuffled around again so they have their forever home here.


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Was she born with no eyes? Or was she abused?


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Was she born with no eyes? Or was she abused?


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She was born with no eyes, hence the discussion of it possibly being genetic.

OP, she's awesome looking! Thanks for sharing!

Wow that's pretty cool. Despite the eyes obviously not being there she looks perfectly taken care of :bow:

I'm happy she's with someone who saw past the "deformity".

Teehee.. Thats a pun.. Im good at those :P.. LOL sorry.. Ill go away now :gj:

Gale, I am delighted to see how well Athena is doing. She has come a long way from when she hatched out. It makes me so happy that I was able to find her a great home with you and your family. She always had a great appetite and knew right away she was a survivor. Seeing her so big and healthy makes me very happy Thank you for posting updated pics.. :D

wow thats amazing no eyes and eats like a champ :bow::bow::bow:

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As i thought about it before i asked the question my train of thought followed a similar path. Her babies would probably be nice but it could be genetic so its probably not worth the risk. I think Ben Siegal has two eyeless bps, so maybe it is more than just a randomn occurence...?

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I know for sure he has one on display when you enter the store, beautiful little guy.

Simply amazing


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lookin good and nice job!

Such a beautiful snake. I'm glad that you decided to keep her! You're doing the right thing taking care of her :)

She is perfect!

She's looking very nice! I hatched out one with only one eye, similar to this several years ago, after an incubator temperature spike. (There were also other animals with jaw and eye issues in it). I rehomed her rather than selling her, with someone who took good care of her, but alas, she only lived for around 6 months.

I steeled myself, and repeated the exact same pairing the following year--if there was an 'eyeless' gene in my collection, I felt I needed to know. The clutch hatched out flawless (and it was a 10 egger), so the problems were definitely caused by the incubator issue.

I have seen that missing eyes and jaw deformities, neurological symptoms, and kinks, are commonly caused by incubator issues. I'm less inclined to mess with homemade incubators these days.