Super Dwarf Reticulated Pythons.

Hi, I'm just curious and just want to hear from some SDR owners, how's the temperament of your snakes? Are they just like the larger Retics? Also, I've been looking around to find a good breeder for them, but I came out empty handed. (not kingsnake please) Not that I'm getting one now, just for future reference. Also what size of a tub would you need to keep one in? I also heard they could get up to 8 ft, which would be perfect, but can they get much larger? And how's the demand for them in the market and the morphs that they have right now? I know they're probably not varied as BP's, but, I just want to know some colorful morphs. Thanks!

Edit: Also, do many SDR breeders show up an NARBC or any other expo?

Find SimpleMan on here, he's got a sweet pair of SD retics :)

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Find SimpleMan on here, he's got a sweet pair of SD retics :)

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I have pure SD Retics. Same personality as a big snake but much smaller. Pure SD max out around 4-5' males and 5' females. The morphs are crosses typically and get much larger. I know of crossed SD getting 10-15'. That's a lot of snake to handle. Mine stay in 32qts right now but will probably end up in 41qts as adults. You aren't going to find a ton of them out there, at least in pure form. Lots of people have crosses and morphs if you're into that. That just isn't my thing for SD Retics.

Regards,

B

I believe that NERD works with them

http://newenglandreptile.com/nerd/

http://www.traviskubes.com/index.php , Travis is also a member here :gj:

Thanks guys!

I'm not getting any snakes anytime soon (maybe 5-6 years), but, I'vw worked with Retics before and I love them, just one thing, I wouldn't be able to handle such a large snake by myself, and that's why I asked about it.

@Simple: I'm not interested in morphs haha. And 4-5 ft? That's a lot shorter than I thought! Then I'm guessing are similar( size and eating habit) to BP's? If you're still breeding them in the near future I'll contact you!

@TSM: I haven't seen any SD's on the NERD page before, but thanks!


I'd love to see a page with different morphs on them, haha. Can they be as expensive as BP's? :0

Thanks guys!

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I wouldn't be able to handle such a large snake by myself

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Very smart, no one should. I don't care how macho and big someone is, if you get in a bad spot with a large animal like that it's bad news.

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Very smart, no one should. I don't care how macho and big someone is, if you get in a bad spot with a large animal like that it's bad news.

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Agree x 10.

Excuse my language, but, I dislike all the stories about how some idiotic people get injured or even killed because they don't know how to handle their large constrictor, and then everyone blames it on the 'Man eating snake'. It's complete BS.

And that's one of the reasons why I want to get a SD Retic in the future. Much smaller, and easier to handle.

We have a small group of SD Retic enthusiasts on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Su...21380437896857

Regards,

B

Thanks! I'll look into it!

Still looking for a breeder with a good sized variety lol. Harder than I thought.

After seeing a retics feeding response i dont ever plan on owning one lol.
I dont feel like owning a snake that tries to take my head off whenever i open the tank haha

I don't think a SD retic could do that seeing as it's the size of a BP lol

SD retics are retics. They have amazing feeding responses, and are handy to have around if some of your balls refuse to eat.

They also are very active, intelligent and semi-arboreal. They SHOULD NOT be kept in tubs.

Chris

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I have pure SD Retics. Same personality as a big snake but much smaller. Pure SD max out around 4-5' males and 5' females. The morphs are crosses typically and get much larger. I know of crossed SD getting 10-15'. That's a lot of snake to handle. Mine stay in 32qts right now but will probably end up in 41qts as adults. You aren't going to find a ton of them out there, at least in pure form. Lots of people have crosses and morphs if you're into that. That just isn't my thing for SD Retics.

Regards,

B

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SDs only get 4-5 foot? great now i have yet another snake added to the list of must have. The only reason i shy away from Retics is because i dont have the space for them.

Just bringing up the main point of this thread lol:

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Still looking for a breeder with a good sized variety lol. Harder than I thought.

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I'd love to see a page with different morphs on them, haha.

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I don't think a SD retic could do that seeing as it's the size of a BP lol

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It couldnt but it will certainly try. No matter what size tic it is theyll be capable of having similar feeding responses and cage aggresion. Just not something id wanna deal with lol

My SD female is from the Travis Kubes line. She's about 5.5-6 foot now and will try to take your head off with every feeding. Incredible snake, but please be ready for their feeding response. If you have never worked with a 'Tic...You will be taken back by it! A snakehook and brass balls are a must for owning one! :rolleyes:

Simple Man - What line are you working with? I may check out the Facebook page as well! Did not know such a community exists.

Yeah I recommend Travis Kubes as well. Purchased a 2011 SD male and he is awesome and small.

Thanks for the response!

It's a bit pricey, over $1k, but that's probably because it's a morph. Is Bob Clark known to be a good supplier of SD's?

I don't think there is just a page of SD retic morphs like World of Ball Pythons but you can find them if you search Kingsnake. Keep in mind they're bred with dwarf retics in order to get this morphs so they're going to larger than 4-5 feet if you go the morph route. They're also very expensive.

Here's anery tigers: http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=94&de=916057
Platnium anery: http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=94&de=915321
There are various ones for sale here with pictures: http://www.prehistoricpets.com/brows...ns/super-dwarf

Pretty much if it's a dwarf retic morph someone has or will breed it to a SD retic to make smaller versions.

Mine aren't anything like that DemmBalls. My males has never biten me. The female used to when she was small but she's really chill now. I've heard that about the pure SD though. They tend to be much more laid back and relaxed. I know of a few other people with snakes from the same breeder I got mine from and they are just like mine. I've heard that is a distinguisher between true SD lines and others. Who knows :) Either way, I love my pair. I can't wait to produce with them next season. I think I have them spoken for already :)

Regards,

B

That's actually where my girl is funny. If there are no rats in the room and no rats thawing...I can handle her with no hook. The minute you throw a rat into the mix...LOOK OUT! She's a total baby aside from feeding time. It's just that feeding response...:rolleyes:

I thought Travis Kubes did have a pure SD line? Am I mistaken? I believe the Sire was around 5' and the Dam 7'.

I LOVE super dwarf retics! I have a pair of tiger super dwarves, and they are both super sweet and easy to feed and handle. I like that they are very active and seem more inquisitive and personable than any other types of snakes I have owned. I realize that being morph super dwarves they aren't completely pure super dwarf and may get a bit bigger, but even so, they are slender snakes, and an eight foot super dwarf retic feels nothing like a heavy-bodied eight foot boa constrictor and is much easier to handle from my experience. To me the patterns on retics (especially the tigers) have to be some of the prettiest snake patterns out there, and they also have an incredible iridescent shimmer similar to what you see on rainbow boas. The "normal" color of retics is quite pretty, as are the morph colors. I really like the purple albinos, which are bright yellow with purple highlights and great contrast in their patterns. Currently I am saving up to purchase a female (hopefully purple) albino het for anery. Since my male tiger super dwarf is het for both albino and anery, I would like to find a female that carries both genes and can produce tiger albino, anery and snow super dwarves with him in the future. I also hope to produce super tiger super dwarves with my tiger pair, possibly as early as next year. The fancy morphs are extremely expensive and pretty hard to find in super dwarf size, but they are worth it to me as investment snakes. Seriously if I had to reduce my collection to just a few, the super dwarf retics are probably the ones I would most want to keep. To me they are the ultimate snakes! :gj:

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Thanks! I'll look into it!

Still looking for a breeder with a good sized variety lol. Harder than I thought.

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