Morph or just reduced pattern?

I attached some pictures of this abnormal looking normal that I got out of my first clutch. I bred a Lemon Pastel with a Normal female, I got 3 pastels, 3 normals, and this special looking girl. One of the pictures is her next to one of her normal siblings. This is my first time breeding and I was wondering if I got lucky out of the deal. Maybe a hypo? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
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She does look kinda hypo and has a real nice reduced pattern. I'd keep her and pair her with the father in a few years.

looks hypo of some sort. Maybe you got lucky and both your snakes were het hypo. COOL!

Woah, weird. She definitely has something different about her. Cool lookin' gal.

:O Very cool!
definitly something neato happened there! Keep that little girl as a hold back for sure! breed that little lady to her father down the road. :gj:

I agree she's gorgeous!! And I also agree on keeping her and breeding her back to the sire. Congrats on the clutch :)

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Originally Posted by mues155

:O Very cool!
definitly something neato happened there! Keep that little girl as a hold back for sure! breed that little lady to her father down the road. :gj:

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Just sounds so wrong.


But other then that she is awesome! :gj:

I love her! Let me know if you arent planning on holding her back! i kid but that little girl is certainly a hold back and i'd be proud to dink around with her. I post all the time about unusual normals I cant see them enough!

There's no way that that's a 'normal'.
Looks like you lucked out and got a hypo in that clutch, which makes all the rest of the babies 66% het hypo:gj:

I think a lot of times people sell off 'normal 'possible hets as just plain normals just to move them, or sell codom possible hets as just the codom. There are probably thousands of random 'hets' floating around in the trade that are sitting in peoples collections as 'normals'
Ex. Pastel 50% het hypo sold as just a pastel.
Talk about some luck that they both were het hypo.

Im almost positive thats a hypo. The first shot its kinda hard to tell but the second shot of her next to a normal really shows it well. My guess would be orange ghost since its the most common and bc she looks kinda orangey in the pics. Definetly hold her back and pair her with the sire in a few years. Really nice snake, congrats!

I think that theres something with hypos that when they shed their sheds are clear or something? Someone with more experience here needs to chime in though bc idk what it is for sure exactly...

That is a wicked cool reduced pattern, and she certainly has a Ghost look to her.

I am all but positive that is a hypo/ghost. Which means her parents were both het hypo. This is very useful for future pairing, because you now know you can add other morphs that carry the hypo gene.

Gale

Did you have any idea that the parents were possibly carrying something?

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Originally Posted by alittleFREE

Did you have any idea that the parents were possibly carrying something?

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Nope i just got lucky i guess

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I think that theres something with hypos that when they shed their sheds are clear or something? Someone with more experience here needs to chime in though bc idk what it is for sure exactly...

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She definitely looks Hypo to me too!
And Mike is correct, when a Hypo/Ghost sheds; the shed skin should be completely clear(not showing any of the animals pattern) so it should be very easy to confirm that she is indeed a Hypo!
Congrats on the babies and finding a hidden gem in the parents!:gj:

Look at that head, that's a hypo.

Sweet hypo!! :bow::bow:!!! Wow congrats! :gj:!! I hope you don't plan on letting her go... unless it's to me.. for free.... ;):D:P

That's a hypo for sure, although I'm not great at differs coating a hypo from an orange hypo :rolleyes:

she shed really bad and hasn't eaten anything yet, she was born in april. should i wait a month and try to feed her again?

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Originally Posted by DanKReptiles

she shed really bad and hasn't eaten anything yet, she was born in april. should i wait a month and try to feed her again?

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I'm guessing a month was a typo? Try feeding her every 5 days. What have you offered her as prey?

i have tried but then today someone told me wait a month and i was unsure of it thats why i posted. so far i have tried to feed her mouse and rat pinkies, she looks interested but won't bite

pictures are gone :(

i try every other day

what do you mean?

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The photos you had up on the first page of this post show they were deleted or moved or are no longer available. As to feeding, try it every 5 days or so, not every day. You're going to stress her out trying to cram food in her face day after day and then she really won't eat.

Are all your temps good and the humidity where it should be? Two tight-fitting hides for her to chill out in? What size tub is she currently being housed in or is she in something else? Have you tried "braining" a pinky mouse/rat? Nasty but sometimes it does the trick...or warm chicken broth rubbed on the head of the prey item to give them a scent cue to lock onto. Some babies are slower than others to get the hang of feeding. I'd just keep an eye on her weight, give her a few days in a low traffic area to chill out and let her settle in then try to feed her once she's a little more comfortable. Good luck and would love to see the pics after reading all the comments posted about her! :gj:

Edit: WOW! I can see why she got the comments she did! Great looking girl and she definitely looks hypo; awesome score on that, especially if you didn't know if either of the parents were. Congratulations, she's a great looking little female!

Everything is where it should be. all the other babies did just fine with eating and shedding, she's just the little runt. i will try those things you suggested. her weight is normal and I'm not worried about her health, just wasn't sure why she was struggling to eat because i know she's interested. She has a nice hide. A guy told my husband to wait a month and i was skeptical about that advice. i reposted the pictures idk what happened to the others.

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Everything is where it should be. all the other babies did just fine with eating and shedding, she's just the little runt. i will try those things you suggested. her weight is normal and I'm not worried about her health, just wasn't sure why she was struggling to eat because i know she's interested. She has a nice hide. A guy told my husband to wait a month and i was skeptical about that advice. i reposted the pictures idk what happened to the others.

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I wish I could help :(. I have no experience hatching and starting a baby.. There are some helpful docs, but I would PM some other breeders to get more input.. The month-long wait doesn't sound right to me.. Especially not for a hatchling..

If you can reach her, Heather Wong is a reputable breeder and member (moderator or admin, can't remember which) of this site; she authored this info sheet and would be a great resource to get in touch with if you can, as would any reputable breeder who could offer some pointers for starting a hatchling:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Hatchling-Care

I have no idea why someone would suggest waiting a month with a hatchling that young...an adult, maybe, so long as they weren't losing too much weight but a baby that small? I think you were the lucky recipient of some well-intentioned but rotten advice. Like h00blah said, most any breeder with experience should be able to steer you in the right direction to getting your girl on the gravy train, lol!