Wanting a big snake.

Well I've been looking for a new addition outside of the python world. I'm really wanting a species that is suppose to grow fairly large (at least for colubrids). So what are some good suggestions?

Eastern Indigo. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Don

Eastern Indigo. :gj:

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Wish they were legal.

King Rat?

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Wish they were legal.

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They are legal in most states. You just need to get a permit to ship them across state lines, which cost $100 and fairly easy to obtain. I think they may be legal in NC. I know Florida bans them completely.

Edit: I went out and looked at some websites and they are not a native species in NC, so I don't see why they would be banned there. Captive Eastern Indigos are native to Florida, Alabama and Georgia. If you are concerned with the legal issues around Easterns, which I believe are minor if you get the right permit to transport across state lines, then you could look towards the Texas Indigo. I just prefer the Eastern and have been considering getting one myself soon. Of course, I would recommend you check your state's laws and regulations.

Here is a cool video on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvoV2qZQtdo

FWC (False water cobras), Bullsnakes & Honduran Milksnakes. :gj:

Asian Rat Snake Like Taiwanese Beauty Snakes or Cage Dwelling Rat Snake.. They Grow to Impresive size but they are tempermental as well :gj:

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Originally Posted by ChrisS

Wish they were legal.

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You could look at other Drymarchon like Cribo's or Texas Indigo.

Everglades Rat Snake :partyon:

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Originally Posted by Don

They are legal in most states. You just need to get a permit to ship them across state lines, which cost $100 and fairly easy to obtain. I think they may be legal in NC. I know Florida bans them completely.

Edit: I went out and looked at some websites and they are not a native species in NC, so I don't see why they would be banned there. Captive Eastern Indigos are native to Florida, Alabama and Georgia. If you are concerned with the legal issues around Easterns, which I believe are minor if you get the right permit to transport across state lines, then you could look towards the Texas Indigo. I just prefer the Eastern and have been considering getting one myself soon. Of course, I would recommend you check your state's laws and regulations.

Here is a cool video on them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvoV2qZQtdo

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After seeing that video I want one.

Just looked up prices on indigos... Woo think that's a touch out of my price range for a pet that I'll probably never breed.

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Originally Posted by Slim

Everglades Rat Snake :partyon:

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Everglades rat, not looking like a bad candidate.

You want a big snake that's not a python? Can't go wrong with a boa!

Red tailed racer. :gj:

Boas are a little too big for me right now too as far as girth. I don't want to feed rabbits.

And the red tail racers look pretty awesome dr del.

Boas don't need rabbits. How about a Black Milksnake?

Bullsnakes can get to impressive sizes but never so big one person can't handle them(though they'll try their darndest to convince you otherwise).

This http://www.reptilechannel.com/care-s...erils-boa.aspx
Is where I got that boas eat rabbits. Because I was considering a dumerils at first.

^ They do just fine on large/jumbo rats. I don't know anyone personally who feeds adult rabbits to their boas (seen a few classifieds posts about people feeding their large females buns but IDK): the guy who me and my bf get feeders from has a big Dum female and she's on rats and she's CHUNKY.

Boas can/will eat rabbits. It is just not required :) I don't feed any of my Boas rabbits and they do just fantastic. I have no issues with growth or longevity.

None of our boas eat rabbits either. Even our huge dumerils female, whose around 8 foot ( and that's pretty dang big for a dumerils boa )

I say if that's what your first choice was, stick with it. I love dumerils :gj:

bull snakessssss!!!

As has been said, boas can and will eat rabbits. But there is no reason why they have to. I would only use a small rabbit for an exceptionally large female BCC. A BCI or Dumerils will do just fine on rats all their lives. If you really wanted a boa, if that was the only thing holding you back, get a boa - you won't be sorry. Plus you can look at some of the dwarf localities such as Hog Islands or Nicaraguans - many of them don't exceed 5-6 feet.

But if you would rather have a colubrid, take a look at black tailed cribos. They are very closely related to Indigos but you don't need a permit and they are much much more affordable. They are also highly intelligent and have strong personalities just like Indigos do. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

As has been said, boas can and will eat rabbits. But there is no reason why they have to. I would only use a small rabbit for an exceptionally large female BCC. A BCI or Dumerils will do just fine on rats all their lives. If you really wanted a boa, if that was the only thing holding you back, get a boa - you won't be sorry. Plus you can look at some of the dwarf localities such as Hog Islands or Nicaraguans - many of them don't exceed 5-6 feet.

But if you would rather have a colubrid, take a look at black tailed cribos. They are very closely related to Indigos but you don't need a permit and they are much much more affordable. They are also highly intelligent and have strong personalities just like Indigos do. :gj:

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Those black tail cribos look really cool.

Eastern Indigo!!!!!!!!! No question. You just have to save up. It is better to save up and get the snake you really want, rather than settle.

What about an Olive Python, they grow long but not super chuncky like the BP's do. A friend of mine has a pair she plans to breed in a couple years I might just get one off her :)

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Originally Posted by Don

Eastern Indigo!!!!!!!!! No question. You just have to save up. It is better to save up and get the snake you really want, rather than settle.

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I'm not 100% what I want yet. And the indigos are so high it kinda makes me not want one. They are beautiful, just not worth 6 months of saving.

I know what you mean - especially if you just want a pet. That's why I suggested the black tailed cribos - they really are Indigos in a golden body but for a fraction of the cost.... ;)

Gotto say Bullsnake...get a good size and awesome personality...sometimes good, sometimes not in the best of moods, but will let you know in a very animated way. Fun snake to own.

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Originally Posted by Plissken

Gotto say Bullsnake...get a good size and awesome personality...sometimes good, sometimes not in the best of moods, but will let you know in a very animated way. Fun snake to own.

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Friend of mine showed me his Bullsnakes. They're really amazing animals. Animated, like you said. So it gives you a nice bit of challenge either way.

The Cribos are just lovely. A local here owns one and it's just the coolest thing. Very unique and something you don't see every day. Plus they have a nice 'heft' for their length, which I like.

If you don't know what you want, here's how I helped figure my own purchases out:

Go and search all of these animals. Find photos that interest you. Then pick a photo and put it as your desktop for a week or more (or print it and put it somewhere you'll see it daily). Switch through all the photos of the ones you're interested in. This will get you over that initial 'excitement' of new ideas you might have for animals to add to your collection. The more you see it, the more you'll know if you'll enjoy it long term.

I did this when deciding between an Albino BP and a Pied. I put the Albino as my desktop background at work for a month. Then switched to a Pied. Then back again. And then to Pied again. When I looked at both side-by-side, I still had interest in the Pied. The Albino I still thought was beautiful, but it didn't make me as excited as the Pied.

Just a thought, since you seem on the fence :snake: