Is it a Double or a Triple?

I've been unable to find any actual photos of the Pastel Woma online, which is contributing to my difficulty. Hatched this little guy out last night. He's quite a character, but my issue is figuring out what he is.

I can safely say that he definitely has pastel and woma in there...the question is, does he also have lesser?

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...boMale-1sm.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...boMale-6sm.jpg

I'm no help with IDing the little guy, but he is absolutely adorable. That last picture... my heart.. :bow:

Donna, he's good looking little guy!

I found this on the WOBP Morph List:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel-woma/

The snake in the photo was produced by Jon at Cold Blooded Addiction, so maybe he can chime in with some insight.

I've also been looking at photos of Lesser x Woma and Lesser x Pastel. I would like to wait until he sheds before giving my final opinion, but right now, I'm not seeing any Lesser in him.

I'm not really seeing the lesser, but he is hot. Unfortunately, only one way to be 100% sure.

Agreed. I don't see Lesser in Him either but man he great example of a Pastel Woma :gj:

I do not see Lesser either, but it may be different after a shed.

You're likely correct, the Lesser-Woma is virtually white as a hatchling, and this guy has SOME color to him, but it's so hard to tell...
That head stamp is VERY faded, compared with the pastel woma on WOBP.

This clutch hatched on day 53, and honestly, I think they should have waited a couple days more to color up before popping out, lol. They're all very pale, save for the one woma hatchling.

I just hate having to wait, again, to figure out what I have ^_^. This guy will either color up, or he'll stay white, and I'll know what he is, then.

Here's mom and dad, if anyone's curious:

Mom (very high blush, but browned out, female pastel):

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...083109-1sm.jpg

Dad (Lesser-Woma Male):

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...282010_LRG.jpg

And, a Lesser-Woma hatchling, so you can see why I'm confused:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...rMale-0812.jpg

I may be completely wrong but he looks like he has lesser in him to me... Either way he is gorgeous and I can't wait to see him after his shed. :gj:

I've also tried to compare it to lesser woma and pastel woma... But the head on yours is kind of super pastelish right? This guess shouldn't be possible, according to the breeding, but the little fellow looks like a super pastel woma to me.. Not that I have seen one before. But as you said, they hatched a bit early, so let's give it a few days, to add up color. Looking forward to see what other members think of it. Awesome snake btw :)

You can always send him my way!:D
Ill be happy to grow him up and prove him out for ya.:gj:;)

Compared to other lesser/pastel/pattern morph, I'm thinking that's just a pastel woma. Very nice looking guy.

If he is a pastel woma, I'm pretty happy with his colors, to be sure. :)

Early hatching may be the answer, there. Here's a lesser sibling, who's VERY washed out, also:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...essFem-1sm.jpg

Either that, or she is a woma-lesser, but she sure doesn't look like a woma to me. :)

Oh yeah! After seeing the colors on this Lesser sib, I certainly think the first guy you showed is a Pastel Woma.

And I agree with you, no Woma in the Lesser sib.

BTW, this is looking like an interesting clutch. What else hatched out from this one?

I got:
2 pastel females
1.1 Lesser Platinum
1.0 Woma
1.0 ..this guy. Pastel Woma or lesser pastel woma, lol.

Here is a picture of a Pastel Lesser Woma from a local breeder that I was interested in picking up. he sent me this photo

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/...andtom/plw.jpg

Uh I doubt there's lesser. But you have some saweet candy their. If you don't want him,I'll take him. :)

Im not an expert so this is just me asking a question. That one doesn't look like it has woma in it to me, pattern wise, so is it the lighter, creamy color that is the woma influence?

it is a pastel woma. don't count out that lesser just yet. the tail and color look like the double, even though the pattern and head seem fairly normal.

good luck

I may be able to shed some light on this around the 1st of July. I have a 5 egg clutch of pastel x lesser woma I bought from you in the incubator.

interloc: It's most noticeable in the hatchlings, especially once they have shed. Lesser-Woma look almost white, with just a hint of cream color, and lessers are much darker. I don't have any prior experience with adding the pastel gene to that, but this guys extreme faded head spot says 'pastel', and it really brings out the woma head stamp, which the lesser gene seems to fade out a bit.

Awesome, Zues, I look forward to see pics. :)

So, he's starting to look GREAT now. :)

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...e-052512-5.jpg

On the other hand, that female lesser? Not so much, with the color.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...m-052512-2.jpg

Could she be the combo, instead?