Low ballers and flippers...

Oh man, we've had some lowballers before, but this guy takes the cake I think. We have a 1,225g '09 female mojave, 820g late 2010 female pinstripe and 1,500g '09 male pastel for sale as a group for $2,000 obro on another site. If you look at the prices that they are all going for and the fact that all are excellent examples of their respective morphs and will be ready to breed this fall, $2,000 isn't that bad of a deal, right? Well this guy comes at us with an attitude telling us they are worth...

$650 TOPS for ALL of them!!!

HAHAHAHA!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He then proceeds to tell us how that is a more than generous offer on his part and how he has to make some when he resells them.

Apparently I'm a real jerk and an idiot because I had to tell him to take a hike when he wouldn't take no for an answer. :rolleyes:

$1100ish for the mojo. $700-$800 for the pin. $200-300 for a male that size. total-$2000 sounds pretty fair to me. If those were the snakes i wanted and was after i would offer you something like $1800 probably. $650 is rediculous lol! Clearly he knew better than you though haha!

If he thought you were a jerk, he would have loved me when I told him that he could take his six and half bills, coat them in honey, roll them in broken glass, and then Louisville Slugger Slam them straight up his #$$. I would of course, have offered to help him with the process in case any of it was unclear.

I have discovered that when you flag someone as a flipper that one of two things happens: either they are too dense to understand just how derogative that term is in this community, OR, they get 10-8 hot because they know exactly what that term means.


Good on you for sending him on his way!

......ugh, people never cease to amaze me.

How's $750 sound?

Haha just kidding. $2000 sounds very reasonable if you ask me this guy is just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

$1100ish for the mojo. $700-$800 for the pin. $200-300 for a male that size. total-$2000 sounds pretty fair to me. If those were the snakes i wanted and was after i would offer you something like $1800 probably. $650 is rediculous lol! Clearly he knew better than you though haha!

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Right and $1,800 would be a reasonable offer which I would probably accept because it would benefit both of us. $1,500 would be a lowball offer and I would decline. $650 is just insulting I think. One thing that everyone should know about me. I was built to hold out and if I gotta sit on these guys for a while, I'm ok with that. We aren't desperate.

I guess he doesn't know the meaning of obRo. haha
maybe he interpreted it as obPOSo

Look, I will take them AND I want you to send ME $650 bucks.... :O

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Originally Posted by AK907

Oh man, we've had some lowballers before, but this guy takes the cake I think. We have a 1,225g '09 female mojave, 820g late 2010 female pinstripe and 1,500g '09 male pastel for sale as a group for $2,000 obro on another site. If you look at the prices that they are all going for and the fact that all are excellent examples of their respective morphs and will be ready to breed this fall, $2,000 isn't that bad of a deal, right? Well this guy comes at us with an attitude telling us they are worth...

$650 TOPS for ALL of them!!!

HAHAHAHA!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He then proceeds to tell us how that is a more than generous offer on his part and how he has to make some when he resells them.

Apparently I'm a real jerk and an idiot because I had to tell him to take a hike when he wouldn't take no for an answer. :rolleyes:

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lmao I don't know why people do that..

I've had similar... when my pied was worth in the thousands... I think I put $2K and someone informed me that HE could get any number of piedbalds at a local show for $400. I told him to go buy 10 or so because he'd make a mint reselling them to all the rest of herp-dom.

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Originally Posted by AK907

Right and $1,800 would be a reasonable offer which I would probably accept because it would benefit both of us. $1,500 would be a lowball offer and I would decline. $650 is just insulting I think. One thing that everyone should know about me. I was built to hold out and if I gotta sit on these guys for a while, I'm ok with that. We aren't desperate.

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Exactly and the longer you sit and the bigger those girls get the more cashola you should be able to fetch for them!

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

I've had similar... when my pied was worth in the thousands... I think I put $2K and someone informed me that HE could get any number of piedbalds at a local show for $400. I told him to go buy 10 or so because he'd make a mint reselling them to all the rest of herp-dom.

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Oh I know! Everyone seems to have this awesome connection where they can get stuff at ridiculously low prices, yet they always feel the need to try and get our stuff too. Like we can't see through their crap.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Exactly and the longer you sit and the bigger those girls get the more cashola you should be able to fetch for them!

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Exactly! If it comes to it, well, we'll have a few extra breeders this fall and make even more with their offspring. :gj:

$650 is a slap in the face, the pin is worth $700 alone and the mojo about 1000-1100. was the guy drunk? the only time i would ever low ball someone like that was if the snake seemed very sick and i knew it was going to cost me vet bills to get it health again, or I'm on canal st/jamica ave and I'm not spending $50 on something that cost $3 to make.
Tom

Your price is 110% reasonable. That guy is crazy. Must be the same guy who offered me $20 for a breeder normal and said my price of $150 was unreal.

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flippers are the reason the mid range morph market is taking a nose dive. good job on sticking to your guns!!

I had that happen to me.

Had a really lovely butter female at 350 grams on my table for $300. I saw several at other tables for $325-$450, so I knew I was being reasonable.

Guy come over, looks at her, and says "You'll never get $300 for her. But she is fairly nice looking. I'll give you $75 for her."

I laughed out loud at the guy and told him I didn't think so. He got really miffed and said, "Well, just so you know, I already picked up two for that, so I guarantee you won't get more than that."

I told him I'd happily give him $100 a piece for the two he'd just bought, I could always use more butters and I knew I could make my money back and then some.

He said he didn't believe in flipping snakes, so he certainly wasn't going to give me the snakes he just paid hard earned money for.

At that point, I just broke up laughing and couldn't stop. He walked off in a huff.

Gale

I wish I could find a butter for 75 or a pied for 400 lol ...the cheapest pied I have ever seen was 650

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Originally Posted by warlord

I wish I could find a butter for 75 or a pied for 400 lol ...the cheapest pied I have ever seen was 650

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A butter for $75 might be a little hard to come by (I've never seen one anywhere near that low), but pieds have come down a late recently. I've seen several for $450-500 range. Local gal we talk to just picked up a really nice medium white early 2011 pied male for $500. Give it another year or two and you'll get your pied for $400. :gj:

I understand where crazy low ball offers can reach near offensive levels, but it's part of the hobby. At the very least, the guy was being honest with you about his intentions...if he had made what you would consider to be a reasonable offer, they wouldn't be of much value to him.

I hate when people tell me they can get whatever morph I'm offering for way less that what I'm selling it for and then offer me literally half of what the snake is worth. I usually tell them to go get their snakes for dirt cheap from somewhere else.