After Cutting Question??

My question is after cutting the eggs, how long does it normally take for the babies to emerge? Is it bad if the fluid inside the egg with the baby starts to get discolored, brownish? Thanks for any help you all can give.

It depends upon when you cut and the incubation temperatures. If you cut early, it is going to take longer for them to come out. It is not good for the fluid to become discolored. You can rinse it out with distilled water or better yet saline solution. It could be bacteria starting to build.

I cut them on day 58 and they are currnetly holding at 88.6 F. Today would have been day 60. I'm not seeing any movement from the one that has discolored fluid. Should I try to remove the baby from the egg? I don't want it to perish.

I wouldn't remove the baby from the egg. They will come out when they are ready. Get a little saline solution and rinse the discoloration out of the egg. You can find the saline solution at the drug store in the eye care area. Before you rinse, put the solution in the incubator for a while so it becomes the same temperature that is inside your incubator.

Also, you may want to make the cut a little bigger so you can see what is going on. Ensure that the umbilical cord is not wrapped around the baby. If it is, then gently untangle it, but inside the egg, if possible. At day 60, they should come out soon.

Hope everything Ok with lil guy inside the egg :(

If you cut you now have to make sure u cut the film layer. There is a 2nd wall that protects the babies(im not sure if that's what it does), it's slimy like. Once this film is cut they will move to breath air. Once they start breathing they will come out on there own but you must make sure the dis coloring doesn't get out of hand. Distilled water works great.

This post is bizzare , only because I thought id come on here and get some advice as my eggs were cut on day 58 , they are on day 60 and I too have been worried about what was taking them so long to emerge. My inc temps are 88.2-88.6 ish. Seems we have the same issue, I could have posted this myself. I noticed my liquid looking a bit discoloured today to but I've seen movement in the eggs and I'm going to try the saline solution if it gets worse. Hopefully for both of us we will see little heads pipping out soon.

It is not good for the fluid to become discolored. You need to saline wash immediately.
Cutting eggs just like anything requires research. It's not just a snip and done. If you cut too early and the babies are still growing they can take up to a week to 2 to come out. In this time major bacteria growth can kill the babies. The shell is to prevent bacteria from getting in. Once we cut that all bets are off.
Sterile instruments, not sticking your fingers in the eggs, and saline washes can all be part of the process of egg cutting.


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This is the film layer I am talking about. If you see that film layer your cutting is not done!
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/b3d6be9e.jpg

At the risk of hijacking the op thread, my eggs are difficult to tell if I've cut that layer due to the amount of liquid inside the egg... Some of them are bursting with fluid.

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Originally Posted by docturgonzo

At the risk of hijacking the op thread, my eggs are difficult to tell if I've cut that layer due to the amount of liquid inside the egg... Some of them are bursting with fluid.

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Cut a slight bit bigger then... Also it's ok to knock out a little bit of the liquid(you can pick up the egg). Just make sure it doesn't get on the out part of the egg much. If it does wipe it off with a dry towel or paper towel.

Cool, thanks.. I've just let a bit of the liquid out and I can see the membrane. It looks still intact. How do you cut this? And if I chose to just leave it would they still just emerge on their own in time?

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Cool, thanks.. I've just let a bit of the liquid out and I can see the membrane. It looks still intact. How do you cut this? And if I chose to just leave it would they still just emerge on their own in time?

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Don't cut Any thick blood filled vain. Or anything but the slime sack film I was talking about.

Actually, this late in the incubation (60 days) cutting a vein shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks for the advice and apologies to the OP for jumping in. I'll give them one more night and if nothing's happened by morning I'll get on with tackling this membrane. I cut earlier last year and must have managed to get through the sack but this year the veins are away from the egg wall and really close to the hatchling. I'm assuming they'll be ok to be left overnight won't they?

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Originally Posted by Don

Actually, this late in the incubation (60 days) cutting a vein shouldn't be a problem.

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I don't want to be at blame for nothing. So that's anybody else's call.... Just sayin

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Thanks for the advice and apologies to the OP for jumping in. I'll give them one more night and if nothing's happened by morning I'll get on with tackling this membrane. I cut earlier last year and must have managed to get through the sack but this year the veins are away from the egg wall and really close to the hatchling. I'm assuming they'll be ok to be left overnight won't they?

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Did you cut that film? If so they should be alright.

No the films still there... I'll cut it now and keep you posted

Could someone describe this "saline wash" or distilled water wash you are referring to. What is the process involved and the best way to do it. Thank you!

The saline wash is just a gental replacement of the fluid in the egg. Make sure the temperature is the same as the incubation temperatures, so you don't shock the neonate. The purpose is to wash out any bacteria and should only be done if you see problems, like discoloration.

As far as cutting the veins, at 60 days there should be no problem. The neonate should be viable and not dependent upon those any longer. Cutting earlier in the incubation process might be an issue, depending upon how early you are cutting, but at 60+ days, the baby should be independent from that blood flow.

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Originally Posted by PweEzy

Could someone describe this "saline wash" or distilled water wash you are referring to. What is the process involved and the best way to do it. Thank you!

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A syringe(no needle though) works nicely.

out of curiosity are your babies out yet Pweezy?