oppinion if its a fair trade?

Just wondering if anyone thought trading a 2012 orange dream female for a 2012 male mystic was a fair deal? im on the fence about it. I dont have a program planned for the OD as of yet but plenty of time to dream one up if I decide to keep it. thanks wasnt sure if i should have posted this in trades or not but feel free to move it if you think its in the wrong place.

Its really up to what your plans for the future are...Ive seen mystic males recently for $850-$1200 and Orange dream girls I believe run about $1200-$2000 if im wrong feel free to correct me...If I were you I would most definitely not do the trade as she is way more valuable than a hatchling mystic male. If you want to do the trade and think its fair, I would ask for a bit of money on top of the trade...

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Originally Posted by AJs Snake House

Its really up to what your plans for the future are...Ive seen mystic males recently for $850-$1200 and Orange dream girls I believe run about $1200-$2000 if im wrong feel free to correct me...If I were you I would most definitely not do the trade as she is way more valuable than a hatchling mystic male. If you want to do the trade and think its fair, I would ask for a bit of money on top of the trade...

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online that $$$$ seems bout right but i've seen 2011 male od's going for 1k at expos recently but no females to base it on. unfortunatly i havent seen any mystics at my local shows. thanks for your point of view. I may have to ask for a kicker with the mystic. maybe a mojave female. :) if i decide to.... tough decision for me.

I would say it is not really a fair trade. The ODs seem to go for a few hundred more. With that said, if you need a Mystic and do not need a OD then I would do it anyway. The kicker with a female Mojo is not a bad uses if you have the room to add another snake.

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Originally Posted by jinx667

I would say it is not really a fair trade. The ODs seem to go for a few hundred more. With that said, if you need a Mystic and do not need a OD then I would do it anyway. The kicker with a female Mojo is not a bad uses if you have the room to add another snake.

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I can always make room for just one more ;) especially when theres no cash leaving my hand.

i would say the mystic and the female mojo would make it a fair trade. Otherwise no

Nah, I'd be wanting more for a female OD than a male mystic.

It all depends on your plans. But I would personally want to keep all the females I can, which I do. I wouldn't go for that trade unless you are never gonna use the OD but I would still hesitate.

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Originally Posted by EAC Reptiles

It all depends on your plans. But I would personally want to keep all the females I can, which I do. I wouldn't go for that trade unless you are never gonna use the OD but I would still hesitate.

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I would deffintely use her if I keep her. i'm really on the fence because I really like her and the only reason i've entertained the idea is because i've always wanted a potion and a mystic would put me 1 step closer to having one. maybe as early as next season. but the OD would make beautiful babies with just about any male I pair it with. ugh still undecided. thanks tho

Orange Dream females are in the $1500-2000 dollar range, so there is no way I would consider that trade!
And even with the Mojave female involved she would have to be in the 1000+ gram range for me to consider it and not a 2011 or 2012 hatchling.

Option 1 (Long Haul): keep the OD female and pair her up with one of your boys...Sell the offspring, and invest in an exceptionally good quality mystic potion...
Option 2 (Instant Gratification): Trade/sell the OD female for a mystic male hatchling and a mojo female with some size on her...

In the long run:
You will eventually get a mystic potion either way...
option #1 you will not only get a mystic potion, but will also get a few awesome holdbacks in the process (to make super ODs combos!) and make some extra $ while also working towards your ultimate goal which is the potion...
option #2 You can breed for mystics yourself and perhaps even slay the odds and make even more $ than you would if you kept the OD girl...

Up to you which direction that you want to take :)

Wouldn't even think about it.

I can see the arguments that it is lop sided price wise, but it all really depends on what you need for your breeding plans. If having the male would benefit you greatly then I would trade with maybe be a little cash on their end. The OD projects are sweet, but it may not be the direction you are going.

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Originally Posted by jinx667

but it all really depends on what you need for your breeding plans.

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Extra females on hand never hurts breeding plans...

I wouldn't trade an OD female for a 1.1 pair of mystics, let alone a single male.

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Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles

I wouldn't trade an OD female for a 1.1 pair of mystics, let alone a single male.

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:gj:

I see a LOT of potential in the orange dream. I didn't know how much potential it would have (from what I've seen, the single-gene ODs are kinda pretty, but don't look like much of a "morph") until I saw Ozzyboid's latest offering of combos on his site. Those few snakes rocketed that morph from my "Meh -- I don't get it" list to my "Holy crap, need a few of these!" list right away, and I'd imagine I'm not the only one ...

I would predict that they're going to hold their value pretty well for awhile as those combos ramp up demand -- especially female ODs. Another thing I really like about it is we've got all kinds of hot "super" combos floating around -- so we know that both sexes must be good and fertile. And, with the super combos looking that good, females are going to be in especially high demand.

Mystics, on the other hand -- while their super combos are also great looking -- are becoming more and more commonplace. I wouldn't be surprised if male mystics were <$1000 this upcoming season (purely speculative, of course, but based on looking at prices last year and knowing market trends).

If it were my project, I'd keep the OD female any day. It seems that there are LOTS of combo males that could make some really killer stuff with that female.

I just saw a female mystic for $1000 at a show. She didn't sell. I was tempted but they are coming down in price, ODs are going up. Other things to think about are how well is she eating and putting on weight.

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Originally Posted by LotsaBalls

I just saw a female mystic for $1000 at a show. She didn't sell. I was tempted but they are coming down in price, ODs are going up. Other things to think about are how well is she eating and putting on weight.

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she is eating like a champ. little over a month old and already ate 3x and getting moon eyed. her brother on the other hand will probably need to be assisted on the next scheduled feed day. :( I bought a pair with hopes of getting him up to breeding this upcoming season and didnt have plans for the girl because I knew it would be awhile before she would be ready. but the thought was supers later if it truely exist.

Ok folks thanks for all the imput. I have decided to pass on this offer. The guy wouldnt budge wanted straight up my girl for his mystic male no kicker mojave. However, Major League Reptiles if you've got 1.1 mystics for an OD we may have to talk lol. Ive been thinking and id love to see a mystic potion orange dream in the future and i'd love to be the one to make it. so gotta find a way to talk momma out of the check book. lol Thanks and happy herping to all.

I never trade females for males. In another year or 2 that Mystic male will be a $200 snake. The female will be a couple grand.

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Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift

I never trade females for males. In another year or 2 that Mystic male will be a $200 snake. The female will be a couple grand.

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X2......great point.