Is this a morph or normal

I neec help finding out if this is a morph or normal. It was a rescue and I.have no info on him. I have brought him back to prper health and havent decided if I should breed him or not. Thank you in advance http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../6/imagejpeg_6

Oh yes this my first post so forgive me, and if the pics didnt show up, I have them in my gallery

Hi, I looked in your gallery. Looks fairly standard wild type to me, but I love the genes he's got. He's got a nice black back and interesting pattern..kinda graniteish. Don't expect it to guarantee other black back babies, but he might be able to help. I personally love black back lessers, so I like to keep an eye out for snakes like that.

He's lovely anyway, but no guaranteed morph. :P

Thats a normal. It has a decent 'BlackBack' pattern which can randomly show up in normals..... but only breeding will prove if her 'blackback' is genetic or not.

It looks like a nice black backed normal. some will prove to be genetic, so you never know, if anything, it could have influence the babies.

If its the snake in your gallery I'd say its a blackback. Not a morph. The blackback might not even be genetic but it looks awesome :gj:

Normal but nice black back and looks like he has a bit of granite speckling. Id dinker

Hey MrHappy! Small world, welcome to the forum!

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Originally Posted by Christopher De Leon

Hey MrHappy! Small world, welcome to the forum!

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hi chis, yeah im thinking about breeding him with one of my cinnys or my unkown female just to see if he is genetic or i might just get rid of him. i haven't decided yet. i really dont have enough females to dinker with him but thanks for the help. by the way does anyone have pics of older yellow bellies, i can only find younger ones and do they tend to get a yellowish tint to there belly as they get older? every pic i seen the bellies were white. is there normals that tend to yellow out thier belllies also?

What would a good combo be to prove if a female of mine is a yellow belly? I dont have a male yb, so I was wondering a good combo to def initely prove her out without breeding her to a normal.



2.1 normal 1.2 cinny 0.2 het albino 0.1 het pied 1.0 pied 1.1 dinker 1.0 lesser 1.0 pinstripe 0.1 spider 1.0 spotnose 1.0 lemon pastel 1.0 het red axanthic

The only way would be to breed her to a yellowbelly. If they both are indeed yellowbellies then you should get some ivories.

World of ball pythons won't load for me right now, so I can't insert a table from there, but here are the probable outcome

Male: yellowbelly

Female: yellowbelly

Offspring:

25% normal

50% yellowbelly

25% ivory.

I feel ya, hes definately interesting and a cinny would be a good pair with his nice black back but when your females are limited you wanna work with known lineage. Lol

Heres a pic of the yellowbelly male i recently traded out, breeding one of my normal females. I dont have a belly pic but this will give you an idea. He was pushin 800g here. You can see the noticable color difference, as well as pattern n that yellow hue being expressed towards the belly. Some YBs are more subtle than others and do have less exaggerated features. This guy however, is not a subtle YB at all. I have eggs in the bator from this female right now and im hoping to get some nice yb females outta the clutch from this boy. But she was also bred to a pastel, so well see.

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/IMAG0917.jpg